Phil , I am sorry , a lot of the stuff you say makes sense , but your answer regarding best offer is in my opinion .... bollocks ..... no one else other than the offerer or the seller can see the offer , it in no way increases the potential sale price as the seller is not obliged to sell to the highest offer and as I said potential offerers have no idea what any previous offers if any were
Nope sorry Phil you are grasping at straws to enhance your arguement , there is absolutley no benefit in a seller making an offer on his own best offer item ,
Next you guys will be telling me that most sellers buy their own BINS as well ...... turn it up !!!!!YES smee that is what happened to me, while I was learning about mis match. I had nearly 50 watchers on a multiple bin of 8 clearance items and stuck in middle of best mis match search after 5 days . 1 item sold elsewhere and one in testing was faulty. I got friends to "buy " 2 items so if 8 buyers did bid ,first 6 I had item to sell , last 2 too late.
Also can we keep to topic and not act like children, and throw personal insults. If some one has different experiences and conclusions to yours.PS I appologise baddly worded what I meant to say .
ummm...it is becoming clear to me Cupie that you have an issue with the way I am posting...If you have a look at my post I didn't call Phil a name, I said he is talking rubbish and if that is what I think he's statement is, why do I have to pretend it's not?
I was told that this forum was an even playing ground for all posters????
You have had a go at me twice now, why?
I will ask you kindly to refrain from this please.
Can someone tell me who are the moderators and who do I talk to if I have an issue please?
do the maths and give yourself an uppercut and if you get back up give yourself another and keep going until penny drops or you will end up going broke .
Listing performance score for fixed price items: Relevance is important for fixed price listings. Fixed price listings have a performance score based on the listing's recent sales in relation to the number of recent impressions it received. The performance score is a more accurate measure of how buyers perceive a listing than recent sales alone.
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I don't believe so Roo. Are you a collector?
Not a serious collector Tinker...but I do have a few odd coins laying around the place that I may have the coinees look at one day.
Thank you Tellomon.
I've been told to ignore the insults so I will do that.
Maybe just better to put some :bgirlpanties: on and just accept the posters here as individuals with unique posting styles and ideas. ;)
I have found the person thank you.
I'll be happy to let you know if I chose to stay, at this point I may not.
BeckerTime 360202265059"Best Offer" 200397583259 360199352480 200397583256 360199352479 200394667510 200395035603 360198764751 370275309734 200397226497 370274829106 360199663626 360199352481 200397218604 360200240541 200393594454 360198462643 200396103878 370276267265 200396489602 200395364651 360198152418 360197856702 360198462652 360198457850 200391887521 370275295753 360195811898 370272809033 360197543782 360195215688 370272804967 200391174064 370273281599 370273819517 | Sold for $7,800.00 $6,600.00 $2,799.99 $22,000.00 $2,000.00 $4,250.00 $1,750.00 $2,000.00 $3,000.00 $200.00 $4,999.00 $4,500.00 $1,999.00 $2,100.00 $2,050.00 $2,200.00 $8,000.00 $1,799.00 $3,969.00 $4,999.00 $3,970.00 $1,750.00 $1,999.00 $2,500.00 $6,000.00 $3,000.00 $4,799.00 $1,925.00 $3,000.00 $349.00 $2,299.00 $4,500.00 $3,150.00 $3,900.00 $2,000.00 | End date 30-Oct-0929-Oct-09 28-Oct-09 28-Oct-09 27-Oct-09 25-Oct-09 25-Oct-09 25-Oct-09 25-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 22-Oct-09 22-Oct-09 22-Oct-09 21-Oct-09 21-Oct-09 21-Oct-09 20-Oct-09 18-Oct-09 18-Oct-09 18-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 16-Oct-09 15-Oct-09 15-Oct-09 14-Oct-09 14-Oct-09 14-Oct-09 13-Oct-09 13-Oct-09 13-Oct-09 | Buyer left feedback 30-Oct-09 27-Oct-09 24-Oct-09 |
Ok Phil I would be very interested to see the results ... I trust that you will record the actual results and report on them as actual fact and not manipulate , bend , fabricate or out right lie about or add any hypotheticals to them , lets just see the results as they come back and take it from there...
just a couple of quick questions if I may ... and I would ask that you give them proper consideration and a thoughful short honest reply..... not kneejerk poppycock ...
Do you honestly think that you posting comments such as this help your cause or will people be less likely to give your theories consideration ? Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that you are not an eBay stooge and that your sole reason for being is to drag a smelly red herring around._________________ or in retrospect do you think it was perhaps a foolish statement ? (no harm in admitting it , we have all posted stuff that sometimes we wish we could take back , in fact I notice that the removal of part of one of your earlier posts actually changed the perspective a little and possibly fooled some late comers to the thread ... I call that the Shuggy manouvre .... nice one )
Have you taken the time to have a quick look at and now better understand in part how ebays [sic] best offer listings work ? and if so do you conceed it is different to how you first thought?
.....any given seller, push other items up the 'Best Match' hierarchy?....I recall one member saying something like that...on another thread about Best Match and how that works.
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............... while I was learning about mis match. I had nearly 50 watchers on a multiple bin of 8 clearance items and stuck in middle of best mis match search after 5 days . 1 item sold elsewhere and one in testing was faulty. I got friends to "buy " 2 items so if 8 buyers did bid ,first 6 I had item to sell , last 2 too late.
Soon as friends bought listing shot to top of 1st Page ( using featured plus as well) watchers within a day was over 70 and 4 sales before listing ended. When I relisted with 3 items still had watchers on compleated ad. New ad started at top of 1st page.
good afternoon shyer , the absolute most important factor in best match is key words in your title .... agreed ?
..... because of the key words used in the title compared to the key words in my search !!!!!!!
Yes, I think your spot on there Bazza. I do two searches, one by key word and then by category, I always change the best matched to ending soonest.
I really don't think anyone with 1/2 a brain would bother with best matched and I feel most every seller knows this.
I just don't understand why a seller would jeopardise their business so it "looks" like their stuff is moving, moving where? what do they do with it once it "sells" resell it? over and over??
The other curve ball I would like to throw in is this ....
As a seller would you want your item to appear at the top of a search list ... I dont particulary ..... yes I would like it to be on the first page of any relevant list... but I can see advantages in having it displayed at around about a third to half way down the page
....I really don't think anyone with 1/2 a brain would bother with best matched and I feel most every seller knows this.....
PART 2 what do they do with it once it "sells" resell it? over and over??
Would be interesting to try and get your Rolex watches placed at 10, 11 and 12 out of 9,000!
… in the original post on Auction Bytes Phil indicated that he believed this seller was making offers on his own best offer listings in an attempt to create a falsey inflated price similar to shill bidding
....Look, I’m done with this silliness; I too talk to many eBayers, buyers and sellers alike, including the people named in some of Philips accusations......
....deception for profit....so in that regard, it should be stopped and can not be justified as being merely opportunistic on any sellers part..it's dishonest.
but I guess only ebay employees would know the rules eh ..........
Thank you nice horsey, you have reiterated my point exactly.
BTW - are you really a horse?
;D
good afternoon shyer , the absolute most important factor in best match is key words in your title .... agreed ?
Currently eBay consider the best value to be the rate at which an item sells. This is measured by popularity – the ratio of the number of sales an item attracts compared to how often it appears in search results.Free post, TRS and all other metrics are small change in my experience compabed to the sales/view ratio
I am prepared to wager London to a brick on that buying your own BIN listings isn't in the top 5000 let alone the top 5 tips
here is the link Shyer .... 3 of the 5 point ??????
item number ?
Hi smee,
your link worked once I signed out of ebay and I then got 19 items . My comments still stand, and the tamebay article devoted one full point to sales to search ratio and two other metrics only worked fully with sales to search ratio result maximised. That to me is, key to city of London and I always liked Adelaide .
Back to topic I did not use "DVD" in my search if I want a Toyota corolla, I do not include the words car, automobile, metal polluting coffin or horseless carridge. OK my error but if I sort by movies is that not DVD , yes in the real world , no according to don deceitfull.
Of course its the same Countess we are using the same search engine with the same perameters (spell check) the results must be the same !!!!
ok ... so we are happy to treat the mans answers with some respect if I get him here ?
ok ... so we are happy to treat the mans answers with some respect if I get him here ?
Define "respect". :marvin: :tello:
Here's my success secret for BUYING on eBay:
I personally know my steady sellers.
I ask for and get the "Tello Deals", OFF-SITE!!!
PayPal is still used, but WTF?
F'em!
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r271/rontello/ODD%20Stuff/Bizaar%20Pics%20and%20Gifs/download-21a.jpg)OOOOoooooo I see .... if that happened to me , I would have been verbally sodomised by sections of the peanut gallery !
okay .... was liasing with Chris when @#$#$@# pc started palying upWell done smee
coz pilates and yoga equate to the same thing in ebay lingo
The ugly fact is, if you bid on an auction for anything of value and that auction starts at a “baiting” low value, "then on the balance of probability you are going to be competing against a shill bidder
What is defamation?
is it a comedy ???
Philip, you may be confusing email addresses with IP addresses.
They are different things.
I notice that eBay's broken again! No lists!
It is not good!Perhaps that explains the weird problem I had ...could not get in to the site (only eBay) and wanted to look at an auction. I thought it was odd as should not have been anything to do with cache. I cleared everything a few times and finally got in...too late!
it meant I did not bid on an item, so many others may have had similar problems.