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« Reply #650 on: August 12, 2010, 12:23:43 PM »
I bet you guys are really excited about the oppositions broadband plan.

http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/41090-abbott-broadband-an-economic-disaster

http://www.smh.com.au/national/letters/file-abbotts-plan-with-wooden-rails-and-candles-20100811-11znf.html



Guess we were lucky he was not around when Australia was laying rail tracks.
He would have come up with a plan to keep the covered wagons.

See Tasmania turned on their new broadband network this morning & are getting download speed of up to 1GB per second
Gee even New Zealand will have a better network than us.


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« Reply #652 on: August 12, 2010, 12:43:33 PM »
Perhaps if we take a microscopic step past pedanticism and look at the possibilities of analogy, inference, suggestion. tongue-in-cheek or even a simple misspelling, then I think the meaning falls into place.

If we wish to take a step closer, the only difference between confusion and understanding is 'u'.

So it's incorrect spelling,, So the rats are jumpping off a ship called Harbour into the Harbour?
Nah,, still don't get it.

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« Reply #653 on: August 12, 2010, 12:44:03 PM »
100MB/S.... sounds good.... now big are the quotas on these plens? 3GB...10GB..25GB/mth? (whirlpool report $150/mth)

And even with the 100MB/S service.... if the place I download from is running at 7KB/S.... my incoming speed = 7KB/S.

I watch streaming HD Video over a 9MB/S ADSL 2+ service with no problems at all. I don't see the 'need for additional speed' as critical to the life of all Australians.

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« Reply #654 on: August 12, 2010, 01:48:33 PM »
I think abbott's claim that he's not a tech head endeared him to a lot of voters

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« Reply #655 on: August 12, 2010, 02:03:46 PM »
Perhaps if we take a microscopic step past pedanticism and look at the possibilities of analogy, inference, suggestion. tongue-in-cheek or even a simple misspelling, then I think the meaning falls into place.

If we wish to take a step closer, the only difference between confusion and understanding is 'u'.

So it's incorrect spelling,, So the rats are jumpping off a ship called Harbour into the Harbour?
Nah,, still don't get it.

Funny - I actually gave the letter that needed to be considered for the spelling issue ... rather explicitly too.


I will leave it to other readers to form their own opinion on the skills of comprehension, spelling and/or wit of some (I presume to be) Aussie voters.

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« Reply #656 on: August 12, 2010, 04:29:53 PM »
I think abbott's claim that he's not a tech head endeared him to a lot of voters

bnwt - Perhaps that's right. I don't understand why the beat-up on this point by the media. (Julia stated that she wasn't critical of Abbott over this) Is it reasonable to expect either leader to have a full insight into the hows, whys and technicalities involved in the supply of internet services? BOTH parties have their own technical specialists to provide them with advice.

The big difference = the costs associated with each plan. National broadband is a good initiative in many ways - but shouldn't that be balanced against the costs of providing it.... and a further assessment of more critical priorities?

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« Reply #657 on: August 12, 2010, 04:44:18 PM »
I'll turn back the boats


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« Reply #658 on: August 12, 2010, 05:05:14 PM »
Perhaps if we take a microscopic step past pedanticism and look at the possibilities of analogy, inference, suggestion. tongue-in-cheek or even a simple misspelling, then I think the meaning falls into place.

If we wish to take a step closer, the only difference between confusion and understanding is 'u'.

So it's incorrect spelling,, So the rats are jumpping off a ship called Harbour into the Harbour?
Nah,, still don't get it.

Funny - I actually gave the letter that needed to be considered for the spelling issue ... rather explicitly too.


I will leave it to other readers to form their own opinion on the skills of comprehension, spelling and/or wit of some (I presume to be) Aussie voters.

Useing a United Kingdom cartoon to poke fun & try to score cheap points at an Australian political party,
 doesn't quite work for some of us Australians I'm afraid.
Try for something more relevant, & it might be funny, I didn't think that was.

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« Reply #659 on: August 12, 2010, 05:09:36 PM »
EXHIBIT A
I'll turn back the boats




EXHIBIT B

..... to poke fun & try to score cheap points at an Australian political party,
 doesn't quite work for some of us Australians I'm afraid.
Try for something more relevant, & it might be funny, I didn't think that was.



Hmmmm.....

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« Reply #660 on: August 12, 2010, 05:26:49 PM »
EXHIBIT A
I'll turn back the boats




EXHIBIT B

..... to poke fun & try to score cheap points at an Australian political party,
 doesn't quite work for some of us Australians I'm afraid.
Try for something more relevant, & it might be funny, I didn't think that was.



Hmmmm.....
It is Australian, & I think all the spelling is correct

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« Reply #661 on: August 12, 2010, 05:52:28 PM »
I'm a swing voter.

I am not and never have been dedicated to any one particular party.

(I should add though that I will never in any way support the Greens. I don't agree with the virtual worship of wildlife at the expense of human life, and it is in my opinion disgraceful that the Greens' pressure was contributory to the lack of backburning which could at least have mitigated the shocking loss of life during the Black Saturday bushfires. There are other issues into which I decline to go, but which add weight to my disapprobation of the Green party.)

I have voted both Labour and Liberal.

It's very much the calibre of the leader as well as the policies of the party that influences my voting. While I'd love to see a woman duly elected as Prime Minister of Australia, I find myself unable to respect the calibre of Julia Gillard for numerous reasons. That has been the major factor in my decision on how I will vote this time. (There is actually nothing Ms Gillard could do to win back my respect at this stage. Prior to her becoming the leader of this present government, that wasn't the case.)
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« Reply #662 on: August 12, 2010, 06:30:52 PM »
I bet you guys are really excited about the oppositions broadband plan.

http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/41090-abbott-broadband-an-economic-disaster

http://www.smh.com.au/national/letters/file-abbotts-plan-with-wooden-rails-and-candles-20100811-11znf.html



Guess we were lucky he was not around when Australia was laying rail tracks.
He would have come up with a plan to keep the covered wagons.

See Tasmania turned on their new broadband network this morning & are getting download speed of up to 1GB per second
Gee even New Zealand will have a better network than us.


For purely selfish reasons I am more excited for the Labors nbn.  You see I cant get adsl - in fact the fastest speed I can get is 512kp.  Although I live in a city - that is about 70km's from Perth.  We were only given adsl1 a couple of years ago, but apparently I live to far from the exchange or something(I zoned out when they were explaining it to me)

But under the Labour plan - Mandurah will be one of the first locations in WA to be hooked up to the new system.

I dont know much about Abbots scheme - But I do know from past experience that WA will be one of the last to get it.  Which is weird since it is this state that is probably paying for Melbourne and Sydney to get theirs.  And because I live in regional WA - I will be one of the last.

As a WA I just want our fair share, we deserve it




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« Reply #663 on: August 12, 2010, 06:33:37 PM »
Have people forgot that Abbot did the same thing to Turnball that Julia did to Rudd.

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« Reply #664 on: August 12, 2010, 06:40:01 PM »
not quite


the liberal party elected turnbull and then dumped him

the people of australia elected krudd and I think the people of australia should have decided is he stayed or got dumped


this is my main reason for wanting labor to lose ....... so the faceless backroom boys are not rewarded

(I live in NSW and seen them in action for years ... the sussex street crew don't use democracy just plain out right thuggery)

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« Reply #665 on: August 12, 2010, 06:51:46 PM »
not quite


the liberal party elected turnbull and the dumped him

the people of australia elected krudd and I think the people of australia should have decided is he stayed or got dumped
This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.
You know this as well as I know this.
I am voting for my local Member, I think you will be doing the same.
Not for PHONY TONY or FOOLYA JULIYA but the local member.

But lets keep saying the same thing over & over again.
It is all paper talk & gets in the way of the issue's.
Wait ,,, there you go, that's why the Liberal party keeps up the same rhetoric.
To keep PHONY TONY off the real issue's.



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« Reply #666 on: August 12, 2010, 06:55:02 PM »
not quite


the liberal party elected turnbull and the dumped him

the people of australia elected krudd and I think the people of australia should have decided is he stayed or got dumped
This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.
You know this as well as I know this.
I am voting for my local Member, I think you will be doing the same.
Not for PHONY TONY or FOOLYA JULIYA but the local member.

But lets keep saying the same thing over & over again.
It is all paper talk & gets in the way of the issue's.
Wait ,,, there you go, that's why the Liberal party keeps up the same rhetoric.
To keep PHONY TONY off the real issue's.




exactly - we vote for our local member - not who will be Prime Minister.

There is no guarantee that Julia or Tony will be Prime Minister - first they have to win their own seat.

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« Reply #667 on: August 12, 2010, 07:05:15 PM »
not quite


the liberal party elected turnbull and the dumped him

the people of australia elected krudd and I think the people of australia should have decided is he stayed or got dumped
This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.
You know this as well as I know this.
I am voting for my local Member, I think you will be doing the same.
Not for PHONY TONY or FOOLYA JULIYA but the local member.

But lets keep saying the same thing over & over again.
It is all paper talk & gets in the way of the issue's.
Wait ,,, there you go, that's why the Liberal party keeps up the same rhetoric.
To keep PHONY TONY off the real issue's.




exactly - we vote for our local member - not who will be Prime Minister.

There is no guarantee that Julia or Tony will be Prime Minister - first they have to win their own seat.

And of course the Liberal Party are pissed off because they can't use the Thousands of Lemons that they bought to use  for the Kevin o Lemon campaign.

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« Reply #668 on: August 12, 2010, 07:32:31 PM »
This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.

Now that's an interesting thought. So, you're telling me that the Labor party misled the population with the Kevin07 campaign - in that Kevin Rudd was made the focal point of the election.... and the people supported HIM. (Why do you think a large part of the voting community is so seriously peeved with Labor at the moment?)

Some wisdom from Tony Abbott may help.... where he said that Opposition Leaders are selected by the party - and often do change, because they belong to the party. Prime Ministers on the other hand belong to BOTH the party and the people.

I wouldn't have voted for Mr Rudd's government - because I don't support a number of the party policies. I do believe however, that with Kevin Rudd at the helm, Labor would have been returned to government. But - we'll never know, will we.... because the Labor party quite obviously has serious issues with standing by their own people. And - they know much better than the voters anyhow - at least, in their own minds!

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« Reply #669 on: August 12, 2010, 08:59:09 PM »
Abbot has shown once again that he cant be trusted, even when its for charity

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/surfs-up-but-abbotts-absent-getup-20100811-11zfd.html

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« Reply #670 on: August 12, 2010, 10:46:36 PM »
Abbot has shown once again that he cant be trusted, even when its for charity

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/surfs-up-but-abbotts-absent-getup-20100811-11zfd.html

That's rather unfair.

The article has conflicting opinion on the matter of communication and there has been no suggestion from either side that the commitment will be disregarded.

As for the timing ... well things are a little more hectic than may have been expected back then. I would not begrudge any campaigning politician from deferring such a matter at this time...

... besides, breakfast with the PM would be a bigger deal in my book.

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« Reply #671 on: August 12, 2010, 11:24:24 PM »
This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.

Now that's an interesting thought. So, you're telling me that the Labor party misled the population with the Kevin07 campaign - in that Kevin Rudd was made the focal point of the election.... and the people supported HIM. (Why do you think a large part of the voting community is so seriously peeved with Labor at the moment?)

Some wisdom from Tony Abbott may help.... where he said that Opposition Leaders are selected by the party - and often do change, because they belong to the party. Prime Ministers on the other hand belong to BOTH the party and the people.

I wouldn't have voted for Mr Rudd's government - because I don't support a number of the party policies. I do believe however, that with Kevin Rudd at the helm, Labor would have been returned to government. But - we'll never know, will we.... because the Labor party quite obviously has serious issues with standing by their own people. And - they know much better than the voters anyhow - at least, in their own minds!
I seem to remember about three & a half years ago, when Costello told the then Prime minister John Howard, that the polls were saying that they can not win the next election with him (Howard) as leader,
But as was Howards want he refused to step down for the good of the party, what happened  next is history.
Had he stood down, well who knows?

On the other hand when prime minister Kevin Rudd was told that the polls were saying that they can not win the next election with him (Rudd) as leader, for the benefit of the party it would be best if he stood down.
He did the right thing (for the benefit of the party) & stood down what happened  next is history.

The same reason Sir Robert Menzies stood aside for Harold Holt.

What about what William Mcmahon did to John Gorton.
What about what Paul Keating did to Bob Hawke.

Im sorry but It's silly to think the leader belongs to the party & the people,
cut to the chase the only thing for certain is that a politician will be elected leader.
The only thing different this time is that one is female.

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« Reply #672 on: August 13, 2010, 11:07:02 AM »
elantra

when you say This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.

why does she keep referring to the Gillard Government ??????

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« Reply #673 on: August 13, 2010, 12:44:27 PM »
elantra

when you say This is not America, we do not, I repeat, do not elect a leader. The party elects a leader.

why does she keep referring to the Gillard Government ??????

When Tony Abbott refers to  "my goverenment"  does he own it?????

c'mon

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« Reply #674 on: August 13, 2010, 02:17:55 PM »
I seem to remember about three & a half years ago, when Costello told the then Prime minister John Howard, that the polls were saying that they can not win the next election with him (Howard) as leader,
But as was Howards want he refused to step down for the good of the party, what happened  next is history.
Had he stood down, well who knows?


That's quite true - but the decision was left to the people who elected him in the first place to decide on his fate. Dare I suggest that had it not been for one Kevin Rudd - about the only person in the then Labor Party with any talent whatsoever - Howard would have won another term. Thank goodness for the Kevin07 campaign!

On the other hand when prime minister Kevin Rudd was told that the polls were saying that they can not win the next election with him (Rudd) as leader, for the benefit of the party it would be best if he stood down.

Yep - bugga what the people of the nation thought or felt about that.... it was decided by a group of unionists and a handful of political crooks. Life is short in the labor party - from dying devotion today to assassination after dark.

He did the right thing (for the benefit of the party) & stood down what happened  next is history.

And.... his choices in doing the 'right thing' were......

He stood down? Sorry - he was unceremoniously removed by his so called supporters!

The same reason Sir Robert Menzies stood aside for Harold Holt.

Was there a Julia Gillard in the Menzies government? I didn't know that. You live and learn! I do remember how Harold Hold joined with a Russian Sub at Portsea and disappeared. That was imaginative too.

What about what William Mcmahon did to John Gorton.

What about John Gorton? He was subjected to a party room vote which was split. He could have held his position - but cast his own vote against himself. Seems he believed that he could not serve without the greater support of his party. Incidentally, did you know that he wasn't popular with the people because of the scarring he had from war?

What about what Paul Keating did to Bob Hawke.

Keating had an agreement with Hawke didn't he? Much the same as the agreement that Rudd had with Gillard - but she chose not to honour hers!

Im sorry but It's silly to think the leader belongs to the party & the people,

No apology necessary. Times have seriously changed since the sixties - in many ways.

cut to the chase the only thing for certain is that a politician will be elected leader.

Absolutely right - and I do believe that we all live in the hope of a better future

The only thing different this time is that one is female.

And that is the saddest part of the whole fiasco. The powerbrokers believe that by placing a woman in the position that they will get a boost from the female voters. I find that an absolutely demeaning action - to all women. Julia's been handed a poisoned chalice by her colleagues..... whose only interest is a return to government at whatever cost - and in whatever way, devious or otherwise.

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« Reply #675 on: August 13, 2010, 03:08:33 PM »
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« Reply #676 on: August 13, 2010, 03:59:16 PM »
r3830, I find myself nodding in agreement with the points you've made.

I cannot see the removal of Kevin Rudd from his position as Prime Minister in the same terms that you've described, Elantra. If Mr Rudd had decided to stand down, that would have been an entirely different situation, don't you think? But the sense that so many voters have is that machinations and scheming occurred in the back rooms, where the decision was taken that Kevin Rudd would be summarily ejected and Julia Gillard would take over. Clearly a lot of this scheming occurred without Julia's presence... and one could argue that she merely took the bat and ran with it once the "faceless men" presented her with their views... but in my opinion that isn't a tenable conclusion, for the following reasons:

1. It is unthinkable that the "faceless men" had any discussion about Ms Gillard taking over without having sounded her out prior to any serious and definite discussions.
    a) If the faceless men had made a confirmed enemy of Mr Rudd by backroom plans for his political assassination
        (which I think is inarguable), they would have been incredibly stupid to have done so without having a replacement
        not only in mind but poised and ready to take over. (It could be argued that Mr Rudd and the faceless men were
        ALREADY at loggerheads, since the most persistent accusation against him is that he wouldn't take advice... and to
        my mind this signals that Rudd was not kowtowing to the faceless men in the backroom when they wanted to enforce
        their wishes onto him. In that case, they were already enemies... but there's a difference between an enmity that is
        really just a strong difference of opinion, and an enmity that is the result of concerted and brutal attack.)
    b) If the faceless men hadn't already had Julia Gillard's approval (however tacitly and cautiously expressed), they would
        have been blowing hot air and wasting their incredibly valuable (in dollar terms) time by all of their closet discussions.
    c) If the faceless men had not sounded out Julia Gillard sufficiently in advance for their plans to undergo discussion and
        development, they'd have had someone else in mind as the challenger, and backed him/her instead. That didn't occur;
        ergo, Ms Gillard was the one who'd been sounded out all along.
    d) A serious issue like a leadership challenge in Australian politics requires an awful lot of backing and influence from men
        who either have decision-making power OR who hold the strings behind the scenes. When it's less a challenge than it
        is a mugging, it's even more a case of great backing and influence being needed. Men with that sort of power
        do not play nice games along the lines of "Well, so it's agreed then? We'll ask Julia - who will be SO surprised by our
        request - to save us all by taking over the leadership?" No. If Ms Gillard were to swear upon a signed first edition of
        The Female Eunuch that she was telling the truth and had NO intention of challenging for the leadership before that
        evening, I'd look her straight in the face and tell her that I knew she was lying.

2. ... I had another lot of points I wanted to make, but the pain has just got worse and I'm going to lie down. (sorry)
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« Reply #677 on: August 13, 2010, 05:19:23 PM »
Countess -It's soooo good to see you but... PLEASE - get better soon! Your presence is seriously missed in this forum!

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« Reply #678 on: August 13, 2010, 08:03:04 PM »
Yeah Countess, what R numbers said & don't forget, Pepsi Max cures all ills!.

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« Reply #679 on: August 13, 2010, 09:17:52 PM »
As someone who has access to fuelwatch - let me say that I love it.  I check online whenever I need fuel.  Its so easy and convenient, I can check on the price of all petrol stations near me for todays price, and after 6pm, I can check tomorrows price.

I cant guarantee that it has brought fuel prices down, but i do know most people over here, well the smart ones, use it.  There have been times that I have saved 16 cents a litre - but usually I can save at least 5 cents a litre.  It might not sound like much - but over the year - it must save me hundreds. 

I cant rave about fuelwatch enough - its a shame that it was not brought in all over the country.  Because I can guarantee - yes guarantee that it one of the best things on the internet,  and you would save a lot of money.

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« Reply #680 on: August 14, 2010, 07:03:15 PM »
Union bullies in campaign of fear


FEDERAL public servants are being "bullied" into voting Labor, with a powerful union telephoning members to tell them a vote for Tony Abbott will lead to job cuts and a wage freeze.


It's not only Federal public servants either.... I'll give ya the drum! I've had a phone call and a letter telling me to vote for the crooks too. BOTH gained a similar response, not altogether from Tello's Keywords..... FLOCK OFF YOU MISERABLE BARSTARDS! ! Well, the first word had a similarity anyhow - one less letter!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/election/union-bullies-in-campaign-of-fear/story-fn5zm695-1225905104336

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« Reply #681 on: August 15, 2010, 08:26:16 AM »
Papers back Julia Gillard, voters want Tony Abbott

AUSTRALIA'S Sunday newspapers have backed Julia Gillard to win the election, saying Labor deserves a second term.

But voters don't seem to agree, with the latest opinion poll suggesting Tony Abbott will win the 17 seats he needs for an election victor

 
http://www.news.com.au/features/federal-election/papers-back-julia-gillard-voters-want-tony-abbott/story-e6frfllr-1225905381027


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« Reply #682 on: August 15, 2010, 09:42:36 AM »
Poll shows Labor on the ropes, Abbott poised for historic win

JULIA Gillard's Government is on a collision course with disaster, according to a Galaxy poll of 4000 voters in 20 of the nation's most marginal seats.


http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/poll-shows-labor-on-the-ropes-abbott-poised-for-historic-win/story-e6frg12c-1225905327849

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« Reply #683 on: August 15, 2010, 04:35:17 PM »
Polls point to Abbott win: Labor


best line in the video : "labor state governments are about as popular as a chikito in a public pool"

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7763938/polls-point-to-abbott-win-labor/

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« Reply #684 on: August 15, 2010, 06:49:24 PM »
Polls point to Abbott win: Labor


best line in the video : "labor state governments are about as popular as a chikito in a public pool"

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7763938/polls-point-to-abbott-win-labor/


You Been watching caddy shack eh bnwt ?.... LOLOL

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« Reply #685 on: August 15, 2010, 07:37:43 PM »
IN reality,  no-one knows.   Its going to be a close election. :vote:

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« Reply #686 on: August 15, 2010, 07:59:30 PM »
Well, I wasn't going to watch 60 Minutes tonight.... but I'm pleased that I did. Mark Latham's story was actually quite interesting. I can't say that I agree with his solution - that being voting informal. He believed that both parties are playing it safe.... and found very little actual difference between them. That's probably correct at the moment - but certainly won't be so come their first term in government.

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« Reply #687 on: August 15, 2010, 08:03:14 PM »
In the final analysis does it really matter which party gets elected?

They are all tarred with the same brush.

Each party is full of hot air and make promises that they know they are not going to keep.

I would like to see goal terms handed out for every promise that is not kept.

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« Reply #688 on: August 15, 2010, 08:20:41 PM »
As one lady responded in the interview Poddy, It's no longer about which party is going to do the best job for the people and the country.... it's now come down to which party will do the least damage to the place.

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« Reply #689 on: August 15, 2010, 08:23:52 PM »
One smart Lady :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #690 on: August 15, 2010, 08:27:21 PM »
Very smart lady.  Agreed. 

Politics will always be politics, they are all in it for themselves, so the question becomes who is more experienced and capable of managing money and the country.
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« Reply #691 on: August 15, 2010, 08:57:03 PM »
The burning Question is:-

Who is less power hungry, easily led, egotistical and blinded by the brilliance the perceive themselves to have.

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« Reply #692 on: August 15, 2010, 10:20:05 PM »


We are Doomed which ever party gets in.... it's now a matter of minimizing the collateral damage we will sustain from who ever get's in....

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« Reply #693 on: August 16, 2010, 03:43:31 PM »

Negative campaign ads


Watch Roy Morgan's PolliGraph voter responses to Coalition and Labor campaign ads

http://player.video.news.com.au/theaustralian/#lUogHfXrHUivkXncGxteqxpK1vRmRzAO

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« Reply #694 on: August 16, 2010, 10:40:10 PM »
Labor rail pledge didn't get Cabinet approval


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/16/2984706.htm

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« Reply #695 on: August 17, 2010, 02:13:02 AM »
Labor rail pledge didn't get Cabinet approval


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/16/2984706.htm

"I understand there would be people in western Sydney who shrug their shoulders a bit and say, 'Gee, I've heard all this before.'

Yep ... and I'm one of them.

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« Reply #696 on: August 17, 2010, 07:21:55 AM »
Yep ... and I'm one of them.


I seriously can not believe labor thought this idea would gain them votes .... after years of similar announcements being made by the appalling state labor government and then never delivered I am sure that the parra - epping rail announcement will lose them votes

hey 'real' julia don't you forget there was a 26% against labor in penrith just a few months ago

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« Reply #697 on: August 17, 2010, 12:44:18 PM »
http://www.vexnews.com/news/10566/greenileaks-dissidents-spill-the-beans-on-greens-party-sleaze/

Read this for real story about the commo greens

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“Our research shows that preferences are an extremely damaging issue for us to talk about. Talking about preferences makes voters think a vote for the Greens is not meaningful, that it is being stolen from them and put somewhere they didn’t decide, and that politics is about backroom deals they are not part of.” Greens party leader Bob Brown’s staffer Erin Farley being candid with the comrades…

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« Reply #698 on: August 17, 2010, 02:02:40 PM »
Shyer - that is a most interesting story. Didn't Julia say that there were no arrangements inplace with the Greens..... ie: no deals?

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« Reply #699 on: August 17, 2010, 05:17:26 PM »
I am so sick of hearing how this election will be won or lost in NSW and QLD.  I am so sick of those states being selected for these debates and town hall meetings.

Is it any wonder why WAussies always feel short changed in elections.  Often the results are known before our polling booths are even closed.

Both parties dont give a crap about us - they seem to forget that We support the whole country financially.  And what do we get in return - we get short changed every single time.

Maybe its time for us to think about sucession again.