Tales From The Narc Side

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What is narcissistic control?

Narcissistic control is when a narcissist says or even thinks something, and they expect everyone to respond exactly how they want.

They believe the world revolves around them and that their words, thoughts, or even their vibe are powerful enough to make people do what they want.

Narcissists expect everyone and everything around them to bend to their wishes. If someone doesn’t follow their demands or if something doesn’t go their way, they’ll try new tactics, apply different pressures, or rely on their belief that they can eventually make it happen.
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The narcissist feels a compelling need to control people in his (or her) environment; his spouse, work mates, friends and neighbors. It's because in his mind he doesn't feel in control. It is abuse, which is often long-term. There are many people stuck in long-term abusive relationships. They often feel powerless to do anything about it.

"Abuse is when someone else hurts us to serve their own needs and uses the situation to lock us in and maintain control."

The narcissistic personality manifests itself in the narcissist's behavior. He (or she) will seek to dominate every individual and every group with which he interacts. The narcissistic personality and its obsessive desire for control is not about control just for control's sake, but an essential defense against the risk of receiving a narcissistic injury; a blow to the ego or self-esteem.

Narcissism is almost entirely about gaining control over others, as is codependent behavior. Narcissistic behavior is most probably a reaction to an adolescence completely dominated by a narcissistic and/or codependent parent (or parents), controlled in all aspects of his young adult life, in a period when he needed to be allowed to develop control over his own life.

Healthy parenting involves reprimanding their children so that they know where the boundaries lie, whereas narcissistic parenting involves the parent(s) establishing complete emotional control over their offspring.

The narcissist lives in fear of losing control. He sees other people in his environment - at home, at work, friends, relatives and neighbors - as extensions to himself. He sees himself at the center of the world, the controller, an idol to be adored and admired; in his mind this makes it acceptable for him to abuse others - he continually tries to rearrange the 'significant others' in his life to look towards him, and admire him.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-narcissistic-control

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Waste of time is right. An evil person will use your love and kindness as a weapon, they will steal and kill everything and slander you.
A reflection of their character, they won’t change.
7 ATTITUDES of a person who ONLY USES YOU and DOESN'T CARE about YOU | Stoicism

Explore the 7 traits of someone who takes advantage of you and shows no genuine care.

Understanding these traits through a stoic lens can help you sharpen your judgment and strengthen your emotional resilience. It emphasizes the importance of concentrating on our own actions and reactions instead of trying to change others' behaviors. Identifying these traits will not only shield you from potential hurt but also lead you to healthier relationships and greater self-respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmtzKHdhqU

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Why is it that a narcissist will gripe to you about a problem they're experiencing, but then act like you're some kind of idiot when you try to vent to them about the same problem?

Because it's not about you. It's all about them.
Their selfish needs come before you as well as God almighty.
 
You are a tool they use for supply.

You talking and feeling bad or upset over something doesn't mean, excuse me, sh!t to the narc. You might think different because of the idolizing and love bombing stage.

But that was an act to get you suckered into their nasty game they want and need to play with you. You're only filling a empty space in their sick mind till they feel something better comes along. This person has a disorder that can't be fixed. You will never understand their way of thinking, for it is off the charts for a normal person to understand.

If you spend much time dwelling on this question, as well as many others, you will start to question your own sanity. Let the narcissist go. Then you will soon realize that they are the true idiots.
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NPD is a shame based disorder. Narcissists need to avoid shame at all costs, that’s where the gaslighting, blame shifting, projection, deflection and all other tactics derive from.

Accountability is like kryptonite to a narcissist. It triggers their insecurities which can ultimately result in what is called a narcissistic injury. It’s equivalent to an emotional death to a narcissist. It’s been described as the most severe emotional pain, something a neuro typical cannot understand. Hence the reason why they must control their environment.

They need people to buy into their facade and the people that they can’t control, have firm boundaries or see through them are discarded and/or avoided. They’re skilled at making you apologize for the things you didn’t do, flipping the argument so you end up explaining yourself while they avoid accountability. They can absolutely drive a person insane! No relationship is worth the damage they cause.
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Welcome to the confusion of narcissistic personality disorder.

It’s mind boggling isn’t it? This occurs in so many different ways; reminds me of the example, “ if the narcissist drops and breaks a glass, somehow it will be your fault“.

Going with this example: it is extremely difficult for a narcissist to admit they have not necessarily been caught, but that they are flawed and someone could be more witty than they are, even know more than they do. Noting: under no circumstances does a narcissist want to take accountability or responsibility for their behaviors.

These flaws when exposed include: to be caught in their games of lies and betrayals. The truth is, they do think you are an idiot, and nothing will shake that reality, that version of you they have decided you are going to be.

Their next game, it’s to outwit you in the very thing you are calling them out on, to twist and turn things around to make you somehow the one who has wronged them.

Simply, the moment you call them out on their lie, it’s the next play for awhile. This IS their entertainment, their narcissistic supply — to have ANY emotional response from you is a ‘win’ for them.

This is how the emotional abuse begins, how the mental abuse begins and how it continues until you become trauma bonded, questioning your own sanity of what is right or wrong, what is true and untrue.
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The way they react, the things they say, what they think and what they do, these are all different.

They react in a cognitive manner. They act in ways in which they have learned how to respond in these type of situations. They act in a manner a normal person would do.

They say things like, thank you, i love you, you always help me, you're the best, you're the one for me, etc, etc.

What they think is, great, they fell for all my stories, I got what I needed, I knew they would, they always help me, they always do, they love me, I'm awesome!

What they do right after you help them is, they act unappreciative and ungrateful.

They act and make you feel as if you are a bottom feeder and you should feel entitled that they chose/allowed you to have helped them. They may even say to you, that if it wasn't you, someone else would have helped them. Or they would have done or made it on their own, without your help.

They will tell and retell their stories, how they done it all on their own! (your name, your help never comes up).

They don't appreciate you or anything you do for them and you are soon forgotten, until they need you and your help, again!

These are all facts and nothing but the truth!

PS: A narcissist is always dealing with problems, drama and chaos, always!
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They know they are the ones causing problems, but they purposefully have this twisted way of compartmentalizing and justifying everything to themselves, and then finding ways to blame other people.

So even if they once acknowledged their wrongdoing, even for a second, this will quickly be forgotten and the finger will be pointed at you once more.

Since they deny they ever said something else prior or changed their mind (as they always do), they cannot be made to rationalize. They refuse to do so. They won’t harmonize with other people, which is required for understanding the problem.

If you haven’t noticed, narcissists gloss over problems. They let things go to waste.

My ex-narcissist never took care of the car issues, or if he did, it was because I kept insisting. He used to get angry at me for asking him to get the car checked out.

Narcissists let things lay to waste. They don't care. They don’t want to solve problems. They want instant gratification. They want you to give them what they want. If you can’t do that, you are the problem. You will be discarded, the same way they discard their own problems and anything they refuse to fix.

They can’t even fix themselves.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-that-a-narcissist-will-gripe-to-you-about-a-problem-theyre-experiencing-but-then-act-like-youre-some-kind-of-idiot-when-you-try-to-vent-to-them-about-the-same-problem

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Five Dark Spirits Behind Narcissistic Behavior

Narcissism isn’t just a psychological dilemma; it also poses significant spiritual challenges. Narcissists often disconnect from their true selves for long periods, allowing dark forces to fill that void. In this discussion, we will explore five spirits believed to influence narcissism, offering a new perspective on this complex issue.

Today’s topic is intriguing: five dark spirits associated with narcissism. While some may view this as controversial, examining the issue through a spiritual lens can provide deeper insights. Remember to subscribe to help spread awareness about narcissistic abuse!

At the forefront of this discussion is the Jezebel spirit, known for its manipulation and control. This high-ranking demon mirrors many traits associated with narcissism. While it may not directly cause narcissistic behavior, it certainly enhances those tendencies.

If you prefer a more psychological approach, consider that narcissists may possess a darker side—an inner shadow that shapes their reality. The Jezebel spirit manifests in five different forms, each governing aspects of the narcissistic personality.

Let’s kick off with The Enchantress. This spirit fosters an unquenchable thirst for power, persuading the narcissist that exploitative actions are signs of intelligence. Each time a narcissist lies or betrays, The Enchantress encourages them to indulge in such behavior.

The second spirit, The Green-Eyed Demon, embodies revenge and jealousy. It feeds the narcissist’s insatiable greed and fosters a sense of perpetual dissatisfaction. This spirit buries their conscience under justifications, making it easier for them to envy others and pursue more.

The third spirit is The Fog of Chaos, which introduces confusion and binds the narcissist to the harm they create. Narcissists may recognize the pain they inflict but often lack the empathy to care. The Fog of Chaos magnifies their destructive nature, leading them to enjoy the suffering they cause.

Next is The Harsh Critical Judge. This spirit inflates the narcissist’s sense of superiority, keeping them trapped in a bubble of self-deception. This false belief in their greatness ultimately leaves them isolated, unable to form meaningful connections.

Lastly, we encounter The Silver-Tongued Spirit, which allows narcissists to manipulate effortlessly. This entity helps them present a charming exterior while masking their immoral behavior, enabling them to manipulate perceptions and deceive those around them.

https://psychologyofbehaviour.quora.com/Five-Dark-Spirits-Behind-Narcissistic-Behavior

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How does a narcissist brainwash you? What are the beliefs about oneself that they try to change first? Do they try to change your perception of others too?

https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-narcissist-brainwash-you-What-are-the-beliefs-about-oneself-that-they-try-to-change-first-Do-they-try-to-change-your-perception-of-others-too

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Can there be genuine mutual respect between a narcissist and an empath?

No.
We hate the NPD.
They were the ones who wrecked our beginnings in childhood.

The only good NPD is one hanging from a light pole.

I can respect that. The simple fact is that NPD are our mortal enemies. Unions between a BPD and an NPD can level whole neighborhoods. Flatten houses. Endanger small cities.

Respect? Those NPD people respect nothing. They are amoral asses. They live nothing but lies. Many of them get sexual thrills by hurting people. How can you respect that?

Never interfere in those battles. Mere mortals never survive our struggles. It is a battle we were born and forged to fight. I smote my enemy a great blow and we fell together through all time. Mile after mile. Year after year. To this place.

https://www.quora.com/Can-there-be-genuine-mutual-respect-between-a-narcissist-and-an-empath?no_redirect=1

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Can people who have been discarded by narcissists recover from the effects? Why or why not?

I haven’t heard a single report of someone saying they feel like themself again. If you have, then they didn’t actually suffer from narcissistic abuse.

That sh!t rewires your brain to adapt to constant stress and now your stuck in survivor mode. There’s a loss of dopamine from the massive highs and really low lows because it f*cked with its system by actually getting emotionally addicted and dependent on them to feel valid.

The betrayal is unlike any other. You don’t know what is real and what’s not. I still don’t know during that time, even if I was told the truth. My person was stripped away from me. Imagine feeling naked about who you are and what you meant before. I haven’t felt fully comfortable with myself since. There’s just this blank feeling, not empty, just blank. Your mind shuts down from emotions to protect itself.

Narcissistic abuse is a really awful experience. Like really X a million. You will never get it if you haven’t been through it. The trauma alters your perception of how you view the world and yourself. Some might feel better in a way because there is this new understanding of themselves and appreciate the wisdom.

I am not one of those people. I would take my frequency back in a heartbeat.

https://www.quora.com/Can-people-who-have-been-discarded-by-narcissists-recover-from-the-effects-Why-or-why-not

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How does one avoid taking a narcissist's’ meanness personally?

How not to take it personally? I find narcissist's personal attacks and they are in fact on your person about your person and character very personal. Repetitive verbal abuse, physical assaults, screaming, crazy bugged out eyes, the lies, ear raping you with bullshit stories and excuses, abuse to their own person with drugs, alcohol, food, sex. The vicious nasty things they can say to hurt you. Put downs, insults, back handed compliments, lying to others about you.

Now, advice on how to help oneself deal daily with these pieces of human sh!t, not punch them in the face, not hurt inside yourself, most importantly heal. When looking back at all the time I wasted with this fake, abusive, human shaped demon. A few tips:

Understand you are dealing with the equivalent of someone with Down's syndrome, or an amputee. Would you get mad at someone with down's syndrome that was yelling, screaming and having a tantrum? Narcissists are having a lifetime tantrum. It is just disguised behind their mask.

Their tantrum is not only directed at you. Narcissists must lure people into their lives and trap them somehow to offload their toxic internal waste. I take it very personally but i cut them out of my life as soon as possible.

Ahhh yes FAMILY, this is a tougher one. Avoid and handle them with kid gloves.

Do not get involved financially, do not be their final supply. Make a "box" or frame in which you keep them. Small space for them in your life. Limited access to you and your home. Do not let them loan you money, make you rely on them, accept any gifts from them.

Imagine in your head someone in your family maybe a cousin, uncle, or aunt you have met and said hi but never really got close to. This is how you should be. Polite and aloof. Do not let them stay overnight in your home. Avoid enclosed spaces with narcissists. Be yourself and love yourself.

https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-avoid-taking-a-narcissists%E2%80%99-meanness-personally

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This Is Why CHOSEN ONES Are BROKE

In this powerful and eye-opening video, we dive deep into the reasons why Chosen Ones often experience financial struggle. It's not a punishment, but a divine process of preparation. Being broke doesn't define your worth; instead, it refines your spirit. God is shaping you for something greater, teaching you resilience, faith, and how to rely solely on Him. Discover how these challenges are setting the stage for your breakthrough and why financial hardship can be part of God’s bigger plan for your life. Watch now to understand the hidden blessings behind the struggle!

"Yeah but...my wealth was stolen. What kind of lesson is this?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjUReO9T9hs

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A narcissist is so miserable with themselves that they have to be complaining about
other people's lives.
A Narcissist is NEVER
All In

@steadypace1262
6 months ago
A narcissist is neither in or out they sit on the fence and jump on the side which is most advantageous to them at the time. "A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways." Scripture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLNGkVnXWU0

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The only thing more traumatic than narcissistic abuse is the disbelief of the people around you. It is so incredibly frustrating when no one else sees them as you do, but the bottom line is you know the truth.
This 5-Second Test Exposes a Narcissist

@carly106
1 month ago
It never fails to amaze me how all of this happened to me over and over until God finally just took me out of the situation. It’s been 6 years and finally I am able and willing to accept that it wasn’t all me after all. No matter how many times I have tried to make any mistake I’ve made right with any of them it fell into deaf ears and was completely ignored. I’m 66 years old this year. Finally finding a place to heal. I am a saved believer now and in God’s care. What a horrible journey it has been. These people are everywhere including church pastors, teachers and spiritual leaders. It’s a very sick and insane life if you remain asleep and willing to go along with it. They will never change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqGCtvmGw3A

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@ronaldculley
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Repack them in a box and label it
DAMAGED GOODS.

Chosen One, YOU Attract MOSTLY Narcissist, HERE"S WHY!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-229gtmp9M

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A supernova empath may be confused for a narcissist.
This is because of the cold indifferent response to a narcissists cry baby victim act. Onlookers who only see the surface fall for the theatrics but the empath sees right through the sheep-skin layer, looks right at the wolf in the eye saying "Nice try".

How An Empath Becomes a Super Nova to Destroy a Narcissist

@carparthero
2 months ago
A narcissist's worst nightmare is an educated empath. The gig is up at that point, and they'll discard you quickly. But you know the truth, and they'll hate you for it.

In my lived experience, emotionally abusive narcissists will lose their minds if empaths do these 10 things:

1. let them know you're onto them
2. remain completely non-reactive
3. radical honesty, accept them for who they are
4. treat them with indifference
5. rejection
6. exposure
7. unfavorable comparisons, compare the narcissist to normal, good people's behaviours
8. ignore them
9. get happy with your own activities
10. establish and maintain no-contact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi6p1mihSb8

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What do narcissists deserve? To be surrounded by people exactly like themselves, who treat them like they treat others.
How God Takes Your Revenge On The Narcissist

@carparthero
1 month ago
I don’t wish revenge on a narcissist. There's no need - my survival and success without them validates that they failed to destroy me, and proves they were the bottleneck in my progress all along.

Narcs already have to live with themselves everyday, and that's quite a punishment on its own. They hate themselves so much that they have to present a false image of themselves to the world.

BUT what I do WISH for, is that eventually the narc will be forced to self-reflect, and confront all the times they did other people wrong. That would be painful.
They would need a seismograph to measure the impact of the narcissist collapse as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwuW87k3yxc

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IT'S UP TO GOD

Tom Vreman of the Dorcas Society Mission was speaking to our church about the patience required to work on a mission field. He told about a friend and his family who had traveled to inner Mongolia region of China to proclaim the gospel

For the first few years, all they did was get settled and learn the customs of the people. After almost 4 years, his friend reported with great excitement that he was discipling his first three converts. That's slow progress.

But after another 4 years, the missionary gave amazing report: The entire village had turned in faith to Christ. The new Christians began praying for the people in a neighbouring town. They sent witnesses, and soon that whole village received Christ. Now the entire region is hearing the gospel - all because one man and his family were willing to plant the seed and trust God for the results.

The apostle Paul gave his life to do God's work. But he knew who was responsible for the success of that work. "Neither he who plants is anything," he wrote, "nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase"... Cor. 3:7.

Evangelism calls for patience. We may plant the seed, as Paul did, or we may water, as Apollo's. The key is to do our part and leave the results to God. - DCE.

FAITHFULNESS IS GOD'S REQUIREMENT;
FRUITFULNESS IS HIS REWARD.

https://storiesthatgivelife.quora.com/ITS-UP-TO-GOD-1

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If you react, they call you emotional, insecure, and needy. If you don't react, they call you selfish, cold hearted, and accuse you of never loving them or else you'd be, "more passionate" about them.
2 Magic Phrases Used by a Narcissist to
Control You

@chosen1121
10 months ago
Yeah, they want you to give them endless attention and unconditional love.
They want you to do whatever they want.
But they will not accept that for you.
They are predators!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk11wVnkJyE

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Narcissists do not condone or allow you to express valid emotions or reactions and, therefore, NEVER validate your emotions, thoughts, or feelings. They also will be absent when you need them the most.
5 Insane Things Only
a Narcissist Does

@lolxd9396
11 months ago
Sounds like my dysfunctional parents and siblings, who are in denial to this day. And then my ex spouse was the same. But then I wonder why I end up around narcissistic people. Surely, I was naive and stupid then to let these people abuse me emotionally, psychological and physically.
Not anymore, now I have cut all communication with them and am feeling much peace!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUzyuaqZvvQ

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Absence, silence and indifference. That's all you should ever show towards the narcissist.
How to Use The Gray Rock Method With a Narcissist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op-9DCA1RfE

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Great advice for empaths and people in general trying to get out of any form of relationship with narcissists.
Emotionally Abusive Narcissists Will Lose Their Minds IF You Do These 10 Things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNSHkCpJ-_o&t=9s

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They will prey on different people depending on the supply they need now.
Narcissists are Predators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqXThJ8r6N8

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The lengths they will go to not take accountability for their actions is unbelievable.
WHAT LENGTHS THE NARCISSIST WILL GO TO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUcGWc303c0

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Red flag #1 - their words don't match their actions.
Red Flags 🚩 of the Narcissist’s Deception

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6akoHAZzv8

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Think about how narcissistic people ALL follow the same play book. It doesn’t matter where they’re from or what generation they grew up in…how is that unless they have the same evil spirit?
Are Narcissists Demons?

Same evil spirit is controlling all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYTkvBBf_Hs

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It's been around forever. We just weren't aware of it due to isolation. Now with social media, everyone is telling their story. Liars, cheaters, manipulators, you name it has been around forever. We didn't have a name for it back in the day. But everything is now instantaneous in today's world of the internet. Everything is easily accessible and is ruining marriages and relationships. Eliminate the internet and get back to the basics of life.

Why is Narcissism So Prevalent Today?

"No, keep the internet and trash the Narcs. Dump 'em in Nevada and let them eat each other".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlGw6DvAlwI

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@ronaldculley
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Somebody leaked my journals and saw my blogs to make this video. I am Honoured to be a part of the stories of struggle on this Modern Earth. Excellent graphics here, keep up the good work!

The SECRET BATTLE Between CHOSEN ONES and NARCISSISTS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbtmJmII3s

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Is it common for narcissists to make you feel like you're narcissistic?

Oh my!! Do they ever!

How else would they be able to live in the f*cked up abuse ridden world they create?

Can you imagine the conscience you would carry around if you treated someone 1/10th of the way they treated you?

That’s right, there is no conscience!

The worse thing you can do is educate them!

See, I f*cked up. I brought out all the guns. I couldn’t wrap my head around what the f*ck was happening.

I was taking every personality test under the sun! Went to 3 therapist trying to figure out what the f*ck was happening.

She actually told me one time, if I didn’t get treatment for my Borderline Personality Disorder, she couldn’t date me!

Not sure if you know this. But dating one of these monsters will bring out the worse of you!! And every character defect you have will be multiplied by 1000x!

I don’t know if you feel narcissist. But you sure as sh!t will be pissed at yourself for falling for the BULLSHIT!

CUNNING, BAFFLING AND POWERFUL is what their manipulation is.

Clarity will come with space, time and education.

I’m close to moving on from this cluster f*ck I stumbled into. Owning my part and closing that chapter in my life.

I know what I experienced. I know how I treat people I love. And I also know how cut throat I can be when someone abuses me over and over again.

That’s not narcissism, it’s called SURVIVAL.

F*CK THEM!

"I'm Ron Tello and I approve of this message."

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-common-for-narcissists-to-make-you-feel-like-youre-narcissistic

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Not smee.

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Narcs are the fools. Everyone knows it
except narcs.
Narcissists Think
You’re a Fool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6lEJJDU-po

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     What are the best comebacks to say to a narcissist?    

Respond to a narcissist as you would a toy that ‘speaks’ by way of battery or pull string as old fashioned toys ‘spoke’. The item speaks in programmable sounds and sentences yet is unable to comprehend the meaning of what it is saying nor the meaning of what others are saying. If you must, keep your communication limited to the most simple of words and expect nothing of consequence in return.

Do not expect dialog, truth, sense, meaning, sincerity nor anything remotely resembling what we’ve come to expect from intelligent beings.
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Grey rock.

Show them that their actions aren’t going to affect you emotionally anymore.

Show them no response.

Quit reacting.

Communication at minimum, when you absolutely have to deal with them because of children you two share or whatever it may be, always respond with no emotion. If they come at you trying to talk down you, make you feel shitty, in order to get you to respond to then or react, do not react, easier said, then done.

Narcissists are always looking for reactions and they know how to pull you to your breaking point. They’ve studied your reactions to their sh!tty behavior toward you; they know how to push you to your limits.

As difficult as that can be, you have to learn to not feed into their manipulation and games.

The more you feed into it, the worse it gets.

Not that you’re to blame, but you have to come to accept that you cannot change them, no matter the words you so desperately wish you could find to make them see the point, they won’t. No matter how emotionally hurt you are, they don’t care, they only care about them and their desires that they need to survive.

Some are extremely dangerous and may try getting revenge and destroying your life (my story).

In this case, if you feel threaten, ensure you have protection. Like trusted family and friends. Come up with a plan if you are in a tough spot. It may seem petty to just up and discreetly disappear and abandon them, but this is about you. Giving them any hints, that you are about to leave, will give them time to come with a plan to convince you to stay. Or cause a scene.

Ultimately, to heal and have a peaceful life, you must go no contact, if that’s possible with your situation. The best is to eliminate all interactions and communications with them and if you must associate with them, again, only respond with the point. Don’t respond to abuse. If they go too far get a restraining order if you have to.

Bottom line, the best way to respond to a narcissist is no contact. Don’t show them anything. They will soon tire off and find a new target. Sad that so many fall under their destructive manipulative web of lies.

Even if you warn them, they won’t listen. Remember how you felt at the beginning with them? The new supply will already have a picture the narcissist painted of you, long, long ago, overtime, by planting behaviors that set you off and you start calling them or texting them a lot, the new supply will see this and the “crazy-making” claims are justified.

Sad thing is, new supply doesn’t understand that everything that is going on, is being initiated by the person they trust with everything probably by now. They wouldn’t even suspect them being anything but perfect.

They too will notice something is off. Sooner or later, others will be so stuck and co-dependent that they may never understand.

It’s a sad situation.
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When you are dealing with a narcissist, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Sometimes saying nothing, giving no response, is the best way to stay alive.

Unless you have mastered the inner workings of the narcissist's psyche.

In which case, you can use their own toxicity, their own deficiencies, as leverage against them.

Whilst shielding yourself, from getting burnt.
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Don’t, and I mean, DO NOT, defend or explain yourself. This is how they throw you off, with all of this… ‘Why did you do that? What’s wrong with you?’ business where they harp on it endlessly. The more you defend and explain the more they come after you. It’s like a predator that smells blood.

Show no fear, learn to be without fear. I realize this is a tall order and I’ve said this many times. When you’re unafraid of them, they’ve got nothing. They fold like lawn chairs.

Talk about them. Every response out of your mouth is a statement about them and their behavior. ‘Why are you yelling? You already said that, why do you keep repeating yourself? Oh, you mean the exact thing that you do on a constant basis?’ I’ve been known to do this quite aggressively, especially when I’m picking up that they are a malignant narcissist. Like a tennis match, hit that shite right back at them.

Set boundaries. ‘Stop it, you’re out of line. You’re behavior is inappropriate. You need to leave. I’m hanging up now.’ Etc.
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Say NOTHING, Yes! NADA💯

Don't Acknowledge Their Presence.

Avoid Them at ALL Cost.

Treat Them With Indifference.

Limit Your Contact to a Bare Minimum.

BLOCK Them.

Starving The Narcissist of any Attention, is the best way to protect your Mental Health and Sanity. —Being in close contact with a Narcissist can prove DEADLY.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-comebacks-to-say-to-a-narcissist-10

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Survivors don’t believe the gaslighting. if you saw it , it was real. If you heard it, then it exists, and if you feel it then you have a right to be respected as a human being. Do not let the narcissist dictate your reality when they have no ability to love without control or love without power and dominance.

Believe in yourself survivors, and write it all down for the times they gaslight you into believing you are doing drugs, are insane or whatever wild excuse they have of you deserving to be abused in the relational space. Consider the source, they need people’s energy to exist in their minds as superior. Don’t drink their kool aide. Keep healing survivors

[tellomon]

Narcissist are novelty seekers and often need new people or new experiences to fuel their thoughts about themselves. This gets exhausting because there is no real intimacy and you feel unseen unless you provide the narcissist with whatever they need or want in the moment.

Survivors get stuck serving a person who wouldn’t cross the street for them, if it inconvenienced their lifestyle. These relationships are one sided and lonely experiences. Survivors learn that intimate time is more valuable than material things or places to be seen. Survivors begin to see the narcissist isn’t confident, but haughty and desperate for external life to maintain their superiority.

Once survivors know the duality of the narcissist they begin to live more true to their own need and wants. They begin to live true to their values and live away from those who can’t be vulnerable. Keep healing survivors.

[tellomon]

What is the process to get
a narcissist to acknowledge they
have a problem?

There is no process; only narcissists have to understand that they are the problem in relationships. Problem is, narcissists don't ever think they are problems in relationships, so they aren't going to admit they have done anything wrong.

Narcissists will never allow anyone to look at them negatively. For narcissists, being correct is more important than any relationship. Even if narcissists know they have made a mistake, they aren't going to admit it because they feel shame. Another problem is ego; for narcissists, admitting mistakes is surrendering.

If you catch a narcissist doing something wrong, then they will blame you, someone else, or circumstances. Narcissists have reasons and excuses ready to cover up their mistakes. Narcissists don't learn because they haven't learned to admit their mistakes; they have never learned to fix things.

Narcissists only find ways to escape accountability and responsibility. For narcissists, reputation is more important than relationships.
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Not seeing that there is a problem is one of the defining traits of NPD. It is a persons worldview and works for them as it prevents any trauma.

Typically everyone else has a problem and not them. It seems to take several setbacks such as imprisonment, divorces and such to see that there is a problem for them.
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Usually... You cannot. If you have any experience with a narcissist you already know you cannot convince them of anything they don't want to be convinced of. They are always right. They are never wrong. Nothing you say or do will ever change that!
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Their entire life operating system is based around the false belief that they have no problems and deserve/are entitled to anything they want. This is obviously not true, but their entire personality is a defense mechanism designed to avoid thoughts and feelings that conflict with their delusional and grandiose false belief.

Having this false inflated sense of self coupled with an arrested emotional maturity comparable to a small child make it all but impossible for Narcissists to self-reflect or admit their faults.

They may pay lip service to having a problem but it’s typically only to garner your sympathy, buy themselves more time as you let them “work on their issues”, or set you up for a discard and smear campaign.

The best thing you can do if you truly believe you’re involved with a Narcisst is to use your energy to focus on your own health and well-being by developing a healthy support system outside of the Narcissist and implement some personal boundaries to limit exposure to their toxicity.

Then you’ve got to decide if you’re going to stay or leave the situation. Staying has a very challenging and unsatisfying outlook centered around you losing your expectation of a healthy happy reciprocal relationship with love affection and transparency.

Bottom line, don’t waste your energy trying to convince a Narcissist that they have a problem. If they’re truly a Narcissist, you could bring them all the proof in the world and they’d just say “that’s you! You’re the narcissist, you need help. I’m worried about you” etc. like I said, everything about the way they operate is designed to avoid ever accountability or admitting that they’re anything less than perfect. They’ve got no problem changing subjects, lying, cheating, stonewalling, projecting, etc to avoid the truth.

https://decodingnarcissism.quora.com/What-is-the-process-to-get-a-narcissist-to-acknowledge-they-have-a-problem

[tellomon]

It was real, it happened but none of it was genuine.
Was Any of It Real with the Narcissist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayjVvW9Qk_s

[tellomon]

Do narcissists care if you ignore them?

If you're ignoring the narcissist, it's probably for a good reason. You’re not doing it for attention or to play their ghosting games. You're ignoring them because they've hurt you in some way, and they know it. In fact, they might even expect to be ignored.

But do they care? Not really. They might try to get your attention a couple of times, but they’ll quickly stop. To them, you have two options: accept them for who they are or ignore them forever. If you still care about them, they know you probably won’t ignore them for long. They might tempt you back, knowing you’ll eventually give in. And if you don’t, they likely have someone else lined up who will.

Narcissists rarely leave themselves in a position where being ignored by you affects them much, if at all.

If you decide to completely cut them off and move on, they might just erase you from their life. Instead of thinking about how they hurt you, they’ll use your silence as an excuse to drop you, blaming you for it, no matter how much they caused the pain in the first place.

Whether you ignore them or admire them doesn’t change much in the end. Most of the time, they’ll end up discarding you anyway. Ignoring them to make them realize they hurt you won’t lead to the outcome you want.
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This destroys them.

But you must do it for you.

They come back when you don’t care anymore.

They can sense when you’re done psychically with them.

And this puts them over the edge.

Because they have lost control over you.

Not because they care.

They are dependent on your entire being under their control.

Cut the cord.

Ruminating about it is a sign you have gone through a hell of a lot of trauma.

Instead concentrate on other things, distract yourself with things you enjoy.

Start caring about yourself instead of caring about a horrible abuser you just got rid of out of your life.

Congratulations on taking out the trash.
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It has the same effect to pouring salt on a snail or a maggot.

It makes them squirm and burn inside out.

Narcissists survive off of external validation. The internal monolgue in their head is bullying them 24/7. They need the validation or they are engulfed in self-loathing and oxidization of their whole identity.

That's why they trauma bond. They will get close to you and destiny swap with you. They will mimic your whole identity and act like you copied them.

This is because your persona attracts attention organically. You don't need it to survive.

A narcissist will practice all day how to talk like you, dress like you and act like you. And if they don't get the same attention/reaction as you get from people, they feel like a failure. They feel humiliated.

They will begin to resent you even more. Because how come you can and they can't.

This is a endless cycle for them with every single relationship in their miserable life.
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Narcissists often have an intense need for attention and validation, so ignoring them can provoke strong reactions. They may feel hurt, angry, or rejected when they are ignored, as it threatens their self-esteem and sense of importance.

However, their responses can vary:

Seeking Attention: Some narcissists may escalate their behavior to regain attention, using tactics like manipulation or drama.

Indifference: Others might act as if they are unaffected, but this could be a façade to mask their vulnerability.

Retaliation: In some cases, they might respond with passive-aggressive behavior or attempts to provoke a reaction.

Overall, while they may not care in a healthy emotional sense, they often do care about the impact of being ignored on their self-image and the attention they receive.

https://www.quora.com/Do-narcissists-care-if-you-ignore-them

[tellomon]

Can you make a narcissist devalue their new supply?

Let's just slow you down for a minute; how about we take the foot off the accelerator for just a second?

You're panicked.

Take a breath; you may be alone, but it won't kill you.

A few more breaths, just to prove my hypothesis.

Now, let's go over this again, but in a more honest way:

Can I make a humanoid with a god-complex — an extremely delusional, dangerous and abusive individual — lose interest in the current person they are preparing to psychically dismember, and return their focus to me so that they can finish the job?

Probably.
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Can you make a person with a mental disorder do/say/feel anything like a normal healthy person? Absolutely NEVER.

Narcissist mess up their own lives perfectly on their own. I know being discarded is so incredibly painful in the beginning and you want them to hurt you want the new supply to feel pain too. It’s human. I promise once you work on healing from this abuse and trauma you will feel badly for the new supply.

Also I have watched my ex devalue several partners after me, with zero help!! Actually if you want to speed up the process, practice self love and act like you could give two sh!ts about them! Look and act happy always. I drove my ex nuts doing this. (Even when I was sad still I would never let him know) one time I even told him “You and your new girlfriend are such a good match. I’m happy for you you.”

Hand to God it felt empowering and he was so bewildered by my confidence and lack of “caring for him.” Found our later he and his new partner fight all the time. They aren’t happy with anyone. They devalue every single person in their life eventually.

Stay positive, read about this disorder. They truly are the most miserable and alone sad sh!ts. Don’t be jealous of that.
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Can you make a narcissist devalue their new supply?

Why do you want to manipulate them into devaluing their new supply? To protect the new supply? To get them to take you back so they can devalue you again? To make them hurt the new supply the way they hurt you?

I get it. You are angry, devastated, and want revenge, but trying to manipulate a professional manipulator is a lost cause.

A waste of energy and you will end up doing more harm to yourself and the new supply, than what transpired in the first place. The narcissist will come out smelling like a rose with an almost valid claim to victimhood. What they did to you the abuses, lies, manipulations and using you for their own purposes was wrong.

What you propose to do is wrong too, you know it or you wouldn’t be asking permission to do it. Two wrongs have never, and will never make a right. It’s stepping down to their level and abusing an almost innocent party, the new supply.

If you insist on it, just wait around and they will do to the new supply what they did to you, because that is how narcissist’s live their lives.

Your other choice is to lick your wounds, heal, and begin a new life without them in it. That will hurt them more than anything else you could do to them, and be a great deal more satisfying for you.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-make-a-narcissist-devalue-their-new-supply

[tellomon]

Is there a way to explain Narcissism so people can understand the devastation in a few sentences?

However low the narcissist feels, you must feel lower.

Any signs of your vibrant, optimistic nature coming to the surface, must be extinguished with the diligence and precision of someone looking to extinguish a rapidly expanding fire in an ammunition depot –

before the whole building turns into a huge fireworks show, the likes of which you've never seen.

To the extent you have good things going on for you, the narcissist feels terminally threatened, and it is not their time yet –

No, so they must make it your time.

No accountability.

No responsibility.

No ability to reason with or understand (care about?) you.

Craftily targeted projection, to remove any sense of your grounding.

You find yourself in a world of confusion, and you feel it's your fault, even though you don't understand the why or what or who or how.

Not only do you lose all that which is good about yourself, but you take on the most toxic feelings of the narcissist.

All the while, wondering what hit you, how you lost everything that made you you.

The depths of the toxic enmeshement, conjoined in that deadly invisible web.

Some things only experiencing to fully understand.
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People with NPD are obsessed with being bigger than life. They are so deeply insecure with who they are that they project a huge persona that they defend with an intensity that is scary.

They can’t take criticism, at all. They refuse to accept blame or responsibility. They will never apologize and mean it.

They do take credit for things they haven’t earned. They make things up. They flat out lie.

They do not really connect with people- they are playing this huge game and they honestly believe everyone else is too, and they are just better at it.

Only their feelings matter. They do have feelings and they feel deeply, but those are the only “real” feelings. Other people’s feelings are just manipulations.

The devastation: no one is really important to them. People are interchangeable, no matter what you’ve gone through together. The past is just interesting stories, with no emotional attachment.
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Narcissism is one of those things best not talked about.

You can call them jerks, brats, selfish, or any number of other names, but the person you're talking to probably just thinks you're both weird, and is only listening to your empath war stories because they want to borrow something off you, and they've learned that if they endure you spilling your guts for a while, you seem to become rather pliable and acquiesce to almost any request.

Better to learn the lessions and achieve your goals. Talking about narcissists too much makes you seem unhinged, and doesn't do anything for you at all. Narcissists love living rent free in your head, they will use you to feel good any way they can. You should use them instead.

Narcissists are a fuel source,

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-a-way-to-explain-Narcissism-so-people-can-understand-the-devastation-in-a-few-sentences

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What are the best quotes you can use to warn people about narcissists?

Know thyself.

To thine own self be true.

Test everything you’ve been told, and keep only that which is good and true.

It’s better to be alone than in bad company.

Never take criticism from someone you wouldn’t go to for advice.

Find someone that messes up your lipstick, not your mascara.

Don’t stay where you are tolerated, live where you are celebrated.

The truth may hurt, but it’s the lies that leave a scar.

Trying to understand some people is like trying to smell the number 9.

If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.

It’s not how hard you fall but how high you bounce that counts.

A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.

The hardest thing in life to learn is which bridges to cross which ones to burn.

It’s not what they call you, it’s what you answer to that counts.

I’d rather hear one hard truth than a thousand easy lies.

Every day is a holiday until it isn’t.

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist”. The Usual Suspects

Evil people exist. Like the devil, they hide, lie and hate the light.

Don’t expect all others have the qualities you value; the first lie or something that makes you think wait, what?…confuses you…run. They start by making you question what you know to be right and wrong.
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“He will choose you, disarm you with his words, and control you with his presence. He will delight you with his wit and his plans. He will show you a good time but you will always get the bill. He will smile and deceive you, and he will scare you with his eyes.

And when he is through with you, and he will be through with you, he will desert you and take with him your innocence and your pride. You will be left much sadder but not a lot wiser, and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking on your door, will you open it?”

From a book by Robert D. Hare Ph.D.

(Written about psychopaths, but can also fit the malignant narcissist.)
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I don't know if people will believe you if you try and warn them about a narcissist? They find it difficult to grasp that someone so overtly un, lovely, caring, likeable - add your adjective here - can actually have such a dark condition. People like to believe the best - and, until they see them for what they really are - will probably think you’re insane. Which is exactly what the narcissist wants.

The only warning I would probably give - without elaborating - is they should watch out around them, protect themselves and reduce their expectations. Sooner or later - no doubt - they will be hurt, and let down. Even then they may be so gaslighted that they blame themselves.
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Angels on the street, devil at home. That is one of my favorite quotes regarding narcissists, especially covert ones. Not that you have to be a narcissist to act that way, but it sure describes them.

“A narcissist cares enough to hurt you the very best.” There is one I just made up.

A few more statements I coined that I often use:

Even when you think you matter the most you don’t matter at all.”

“If you have not been narcissistically abused you will never understand it.”

“You will be with a narcissist until it hurts more to stay then to go.”

“It’s all a game to a narcissist. You are not playing in the game, that would make you important, no, you are merely a game piece, to be positioned as the narcissist's see fit.

“Deep down narcissists are good people, that is why they are often buried twelve feet deep instead of six.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-quotes-you-can-use-to-warn-people-about-narcissists

[tellomon]

How can narcissists just shut feelings on and off so quickly like a light switch?

 

One minute they love you, the next minute you don't exist.

Once you learn about narcissism and accept what it is, things start to make sense.

There was no real "love" from them. You loved them, but they didn’t love you back.

They chose you like picking apples at a store.

Once they start talking to you, they mirror you, studying who you are.

They fantasize about what you can do for them and how you can make them feel. If you give them a strong emotional rush, they’ll drop all the other people they were focusing on without you even knowing.

They mirror you so, in reality, you’re falling in love with yourself. Pretty wild, right?

Once they have you, they start devaluing all the things they liked about you. That’s why you’re confused and questioning what happened.

They never truly loved you. You were like a drug to them, and when the "high" wore off, they needed more to keep getting that rush.

It’s not personal. Think about a broken toaster. Do you go to therapy when it stops working? Do you keep it on the counter for months, crying and hoping it’ll toast again? Do you remind it how well you took care of it?

Narcissists can’t feel emotions like regular people do.

You’re hurting because you were used in a terrible way. Sometimes, it feels like getting punched in the face would be easier than having your heart broken like this. I went through the same thing and only learned about the disorder months after she left.

You have to accept it for what it is.

They mess with your feelings because you have them. That’s how they’re able to have relationships at all.
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For all appearances, it seems like a narcissist just shuts off their emotions for other people. Yet, in all actuality, there was never any emotions to shut off. The narcissist simply stops playing the role of caring for you.

You no longer serve a purpose, they've met someone new or maybe you hit their ego in a negative way. Plus, we all know how deep it cuts us when someone we care for on such an emotional level doesn't feel the same for us any longer. For some people, having the power to hurt someone that deep or to cause such an emotional upheaval in the life of another, gives them an intense feeling of power.

They give you the feelings of joy, happiness, LOVE….then they take it all away; only to let it be replaced with hollowness, loneliness, emotional despair over your loss. And they are well aware of the fact that you are left feeling broken and half dead inside because they have shut you out and remain cold towards you.

So, as hard as it is to face, we have to recognize that this person never held any actual feelings or regard for us as a person. They only cared about what we could bring into their lives. The person you met and developed true emotions for never existed. They only played the part that you wanted to see.
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They don't shut feelings on and off.

The reality is that, they have never loved you.

Narcissists have an emotional, mental personality disorder. They do not have feelings/emotions of love for themselves or any other human being.

It's hard to perceive this as an average human being. Most of us were raised believing and thinking that love is a normal capability for everyone. Not so!

Even if they tell you they love you, it's not true. They are telling you a lie.

For that reason, it may be perceived as them turning their feelings on and off. When in reality, they were never turned on.

Narcissists are emotionally unavailable.

They are incapable of loving. I know it's hard to understand and accept!

https://www.quora.com/How-can-narcissists-just-shut-feelings-on-and-off-so-quickly-like-a-light-switch-One-minute-they-love-you-the-next-minute-you-dont-exist

[tellomon]

Healthy minded people will resolve conflict if you bring up something that hurt you. Narcissists get their power from keeping you on your back-foot, and having you doubt your thoughts and feelings.

When you are sure of yourself and want to resolve or discuss issues, this is when they employ the silent treatment. They cannot stand to face truth or discuss problems involving their behavior.

I know it’s hard to feel like your thoughts and feelings matter when in the middle of a silent treatment, but YOU DO MATTER. Using silence to control another human is unhealthy and wrong. Keep Healing.

[tellomon]

[tellomon]

Chosen Ones, Don’t Ignore Your 3 AM Wake-Up God Is Calling You NOW!

The Spiritual Meaning of Waking at 3 AM – Why does God wake you up at 3 AM? If you're a chosen one experiencing frequent nighttime awakenings, you're not alone. In this video, we uncover the powerful significance of the Fourth Watch (3 AM to 5 AM) and how it connects to your divine calling."

Discover how this sacred time holds a deep spiritual purpose, offering moments of divine communication, spiritual warfare, and personal growth. We’ll guide you on how to use these wake-up calls to connect with God, protect your spiritual territory, and receive life-changing insights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpGtpnuh5E

[tellomon]

The Narcissist is a Trickster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfhTmFUl4I

[tellomon]

Century of the Narcissist
America’s Social Engineering Experiment

How one man socially engineered and manipulated public opinion to create a cultural landscape in America that would be a breeding ground for Narcissist. He worked with the U.S. government, leveraged his Uncle Sigmund Freud and hijacked his theories to empower leaders to engineer consent and create social conformity, blurring the lines between information and propaganda.

We discuss the evolution of mental health classification and assessment, particularly in the military, during the 1920’s-1970s. This period saw the publication of the ICD and DSM, which led to a high rate of soldiers being classified as psychopathic.

We also explore the troubling trends of the time, including the rise of serial killers and concerns about the impact of government-endorsed parenting styles on young adults. The cultural awareness of psychopathic traits in influential figures also contributed to changes in the DSM, including the introduction of narcissistic personality disorder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvrk5fn4zXU

[tellomon]

New supply, old supply, any supply.....the ongoing search to entrap more victims by the narcissist continues!
THE FIRST SIGNS OF THE NEW SUPPLY

The first signs of the new supply. When you were in the relationship with the narcissist, you didn’t know what narcissism was. You didn’t know that they would be grooming multiple people behind your back to be your replacement. It is usually when you’re in these relationships trapped in that narcissistic fog not knowing what is up or down when you lose yourself.

Is it at this point as you are getting weaker than narcissist watching you fall apart. This is when many times they will look to insert a new supply. When you see the narcissist behaving in different ways than they used to behave when you were with them.. this is usually when the new supply is prevalent. See the narcissist will assimilate themselves with the new supply they will take on their hobbies, their style, their words, their mannerisms, etc.

And what the narcissist will want to do is spend less time with you and more time with the new supply as a transition from one fuel source to the next. Again, you weren’t supposed to know what this was narcissism. But now you’re understanding. And the new supply was being vetted and groomed just like you were.

When the narcissist starts behaving differently than they were when you were with them, not only post of bombs/forestage but I’m talking when you were in that relationship being a devalued day and day out when they start having a little spark in their step and perhaps start going to the gym and start being a happier than usual. This is usually when the new supply is right around the corner. Sending you positive energy and abundance.


@JamesNGames
19 hours ago
The first signs of the new supply are a reminder that I was never the problem. It's not me they needed to replace—it's the control they crave, the attention they feed on, and the emptiness inside them that demands constant filling. Watching them sink their claws into someone else doesn’t make me feel small anymore. It shows me how far I’ve come. I’m no longer blind to the game, no longer their puppet. They can have their new supply, but they’ll never have me again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmEWqRxLEs

[tellomon]

You Don’t Care And
They Hate It!
They DON’T KNOW What
To Do With You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-NCvd0-eI

CHOSEN ONES! They Tried to SET YOU UP But Failed Miserably!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW60aiAzwbs

[tellomon]

How does the narcissist “feel” once if they realise that the empath sees them for what they are?

Highly empathetic people, people who lean into the energy/vibes of others, or people who easily pick up on the emotions of others have a strong advantage over narcissists. Face-to-face conversation with a narcissist is the best time to lean into what is going on underneath. Your intuition is your friend, and it will be nudging you quite often when dealing with a narcissist.

Focus in and the truth will reveal itself. It is almost like being in two places at once. Sure, you are looking the narcissist in his/her face. Sure, you are hearing the words that are coming out of the narcissist’s mouth…but you can also pick up on his/her negative energy (even while you are talking, even when the narcissist is silent). You can also sometimes pick up on the insincerity and aggression surrounding his/her words.

The narcissist is a fool in many different ways, and is no match for those who are able to lean into what is going on underneath. The narcissist will come to realize that you are picking up on what is going on underneath, time and time again. Many narcissists are emotionally guarded and try very hard to keep their fragility/vulnerability to themselves, so he/she will be very uncomfortable when you reach out.

Narcissists feel “naked” when you are able to reach their fragility/vulnerability, and they will quickly pull away, like a turtle pulling its head into its shell. You will notice the narcissist’s discomfort if you are able to pin him/her down. They will know that you are able to see through them, and they do not like this.

They do not like having to take a look in the mirror, and when you confront them with their behaviors/actions, you are forcing them to do this. They will attempt to gather themselves, but they will panic. They may attempt to change the subject, maybe crack a joke or ask you a random question. They are quite afraid of emotional intimacy, and some are quite afraid of being negatively judged.

Some know that you will eventually see what they are trying to hide, and some do seem to know when their time is running out. Some entirely collapse when it becomes clear that you have seen through them for the last and final time. Some truly fear abandonment, and will do everything in their power to drag you back into their toxic mess.

Some will desperately attempt to re-gain a sense of control…to pull the wool over your eyes…to reel you back in. They will lose all control. Contradict themselves. You will hear GO, but you will also hear STAY. They will tell on themselves, tell you of what they are really wanting you for. You will feel their desperation, as they attempt to charm and flatter you back into their caves.

You will FEEL the battle between the false and true self. The false self disintegrates, and the true self comes bursting through. The narcissistic balloon deflates.They are begging you to put them back together during collapse. You must take back what you have said. You must promise that you will not leave.

Think of it as a baby crying out for comfort, crying out for his/her mother as she walks out of the room. You will sense that they want your pity. It will all seem like a very intense, very pathetic display of desperation. You have won if you are able to witness this and walk away with your head held high.

“I owe you nothing. I’m chasing you. I resent you. I wish you would have chased me. You rejected me. I’m too good for you. You’re not on my level. I need to find someone who is on my level. I’m rejecting you. You’re a good person. You’re beautiful. You turn me on so much. Please stay. I’m confused. Find someone else. I have nothing to offer.

Please have sex with me. I’m lost. I’M felafelled UP AND DAMAGED. I can’t do a relationship. Everyone hates me. I’m so horny for you right now. Everyone leaves me. See? You hate me too. Please stop seeing through me. I’m a liar. I’m the shite. I haven’t followed through with anything in my life. I thought you were my mommy. I have no money. I’m so horny. I wouldn’t want to use you. I’m a victim.

Okay, I’ve been trying to use you. Can I use you for sex or? Why did mommy leave me? You remind me of an Egyptian princess. I’m emotionally unavailable. Don’t leave. My life is a mess. I just recently started to care about my life. I’m tired of people felafeling with me! I WILL be successful! You can’t stop me! Everyone will bow down to me one day. I don’t need your help. Okay, I need your help.

I’m scared! Please comfort me. I don’t know what I’m doing. Come on, relax. Let me take advantage of you. I’ll make time. Please feel sorry for me. I’ll see you next weekend, okay?! Hey, I think sweet things about you…yeah, I don’t know…sweet things. That sounds good, right? Damn, you’re sexy as felafel. I get hard just talking to you.

Come on, chill. Stop reminding me of who I really am. So you’re staying then? HA! See? I’m the shite. Wait.. it’s because I’m the shite, right? Yeah, that must be it! I GUESS you can see me again…you know, it’s hard work..being an extraordinarily busy man and all. Mommy’s back! Mommy’s back! I now give you permission to see me again.”
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The gig is up for the narc!!

Cant get his supply fix from someone who knows what to expect.

Its our reaction to all their messiness that gives them their fix.

No reaction, no fix!

Besides the narc hates himself inside and feels a lot of shame. I don't think he could be around somebody who he thinks sees him through his own eyes.
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Empath (Person with a conscience, understanding that they are not the center of the universe).

Narcissist (Me, me, and only me)

For every action, there is an equal, and opposite reaction, and in this case, soooo not expected.

Complete scorched Earth, on both sides.

How did he feel? If his reaction means anything, like I’d stuck a hot knife in his eye, and twisted it, for kicks.

Once I grasped completely, just how malignant this man is, and how much pleasure he derived from hurting me, I did not hold back, in throwing his own shite right back into his lap.

I don’t care how he feels anymore. I agonized over this for months, laboring under the delusions he fed to me, but bit by bit, piece by piece, I sifted through the bread crumbs he left behind, still clinging to the bits of love and tenderness, faith and hope, that existed in my heart, but to no avail.

Being such an ego-driven prick, he couldn’t help but leave it all behind for me to see, as he is so proud of his infidelity and faithlessness, his talent for mind-f*cking the masses.

I heard and felt his rage for two days. I side-stepped his venom, and when he finally grew quiet, I approached him with the last bits of love I held on to, and tossed that into his lap, as well.

How does the “loving” Narc feel, when you give him the same mixed signals he gave you? How does he feel, while sitting mired in the shite that you tossed back to him? How does he feel, when you don’t disintegrate into tears and ashes when he throws the book at you? How does he feel, when he knows that you see him for the naked Emperor that he is?

“Go f*ck yourself,” were the last words that I heard from him. Guess it doesn’t feel so good, eh?

https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-narcissist-feel-once-if-they-realise-that-the-empath-sees-them-for-what-they-are

[tellomon]

Psychological abuse is horrible as you live with someone who regularly treats your relationship like a CIA interview. It’s a “need to know” basis of torture to gather data about you to break you down for their own personal gain.

[tellomon]

Is it possible for a narcissist to permanently discard you if you stood up to their abuse?

This answer is bad news, but I will say it anyway. You guessed it. The ugly narcissist will discard you, in case you are a normal man/woman with no sociopathic traits.

But if you are one of their own species, meaning a narcissist, sociopath, psychopath or even a borderline, the narcissist will stay around to collect fuel. And let me tell you why..

Narcissists love to live in a continuous adventure. That's the main reason most of their lovers are also sociopaths. This is a truth no one will ever tell you. Not even on Quora. Sociopaths dance this pathological No end game with each other. They love the adventure, the crazy making, the fights and the make ups. Dirtier than no others. I say it from experience.

The narcissists I know had very promiscuous women hidden behind their hat. Do you think those women never called them out? Of course they did, probably more than you and I. But the difference was that those women being sociopathic, they would entertain more the psychopath. And if they are higher on the sociopathy scale, they would even keep him hooked forever or for a long time.

So the answer to your question is relative. Are you a narcissist, a sociopath? If not, you most certainly can expect a discard, unless you lend the narcissist your credit card.

https://explorenarcissism.quora.com/Is-it-possible-for-a-narcissist-to-permanently-discard-you-if-you-stood-up-to-their-abuse