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The Oz Round Table boards => The Round Table => Topic started by: *CountessA* on October 08, 2010, 09:21:39 PM
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Keep an eye on the Motormouth site for cheapest fuel prices in your state.
Link to cheapest LPG in Melbourne (http://motormouth.com.au/bestsites.aspx?city=Melbourne&fueltype=4)
Link to cheapest Unleaded Petrol in Melbourne (http://motormouth.com.au/pricesearch.aspx?Region=Melbourne)
You can have personalised emails sent on a daily basis, for the region and fuel type relevant to you.
Every bit of saving helps.
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WOT ????? No iPhone app for that????
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Funny, I joined this app 3 or 4 years ago and used to get emails all the time. Don't get them anymore and after all this time, they still don't do the newcastle area.
BUGGA! they are way behind the times.
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OK well I found this, so I take back what I said but, it's still nowhere near my and I paid $113.9 on Sunday and it was still the same this morning.
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Funny, I joined this app 3 or 4 years ago and used to get emails all the time. Don't get them anymore and after all this time, they still don't do the newcastle area.
BUGGA! they are way behind the times.
True, the closest we have is Cheap Petrol (http://www.fueloz.com/)
Don't cover your side though :drama:
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WOT ????? No iPhone app for that????
LOL @ poddy....
Tess does the i-phone run on i-fuel ?.....
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whats that Yibs ??? you asking Tess to give you an eye full ?
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Smee I got an eye full down the RIO GRANDE RIVER .... that reminds me I better go look again...
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Now, to clear up this confusion... YES, the iPhone has an app for that!
Well... actually... it did. Then the app went bonkers and the designer changed it to provide only WA fuel information. (WA has Fuelwatch, of course, hence the number of apps feeding off that information to provide cheapest fuel price information to iPhone users.)
But you can save the RACV fuel price page on its website as a web app.
I find I get the best range of fuel price information by having daily emails from Motormouth AND using the RACV web app. LPG just went up 12 cents a litre in the last few days, and of course I relied on this combination of information to get fuel at 49 cents a litre rather than 59 cents a litre.
Oh, and no - the iPhone doesn't run on fuel... There IS NO LITTLE FUEL TANK IN THE IPHONE! Stop trying to plug in the petrol nozzle! *tsk tsk*
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We currently have no data available for your postcode / suburb. In order to cater for as many motorists as possible, we have chosen to collect fuel prices for various areas around Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide, Canberra, Darwin and Perth.
thanks
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Ouch - sorry about that, BNWT. Isolated area?
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Holy hole in the ocean bed... BP's LPG price ranges for today are almost uniformly cheaper by 10 cents a litre than Caltex/Woolworths.
For those in Melbourne running their cars on LPG, it might be a good idea to tank up at a BP service station (and remember you'll be given a 2 cents per litre discount if you have a BP card - which is free).
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Funny, I joined this app 3 or 4 years ago and used to get emails all the time. Don't get them anymore and after all this time, they still don't do the newcastle area.
BUGGA! they are way behind the times.
True, the closest we have is Cheap Petrol (http://www.fueloz.com/)
Don't cover your side though :drama:
no it sure doesn't. Thanks anyway.
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actually nothing covers my area.
we finally got a target. WOW! but no one shops there, cause they mostly stock younger ppl 's clothing and the younger ppl won't shop there because it's gay. yep that's right folks, GAY! and who am I to argue with the younger generation. God knows, they know more than me.
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And for people in WA - its http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/prices/dsp_search.cfm?search=Quick (http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/prices/dsp_search.cfm?search=Quick)
Everyone here is charging 121.9 for ulp Sunday. Yesterday, being Saturday it was 123.9.
What are you lot paying for petrol?
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MM . I have seen it as low as $1.08 and as high as $1.25 over the last 2 or 3 days
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$1.08 - that would be heaven. Our has not gotten lower than 115.
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I wonder how much Gas is in Tello country??
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the $1.08 could well have been if you have a 4c a litre voucher plus you must buy a can of coke and 37 mars bars for $5o and and you then get that price , they are a bit tricky like that over here , they have a 40ft square flashing neon sign with the price and then the terms and conditions are scribbled on the botton in invisble crayon and often the displayed price is for that e10 or whatever its called but that little bit of info is pretty well hidden too until you arrive at the bowser
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I have it on good authority that Tello brews his own Roo :)
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the $1.08 could well have been if you have a 4c a litre voucher plus you must buy a can of coke and 37 mars bars for $5o and and you then get that price , they are a bit tricky like that over here , they have a 40ft square flashing neon sign with the price and then the terms and conditions are scribbled on the botton in invisble crayon and often the displayed price is for that e10 or whatever its called but that little bit of info is pretty well hidden too until you arrive at the bowser
I love the petrol vouchers - and then I always get a recharge voucher for either me or the boy, so I get to save 8 cents/litre.
Now we dont have e10 over here - is that the ethonal blend?
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yes the ethanol blend . not sure whats its called but its something like E10
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Yep - E10.
10% Ethanol.
Imaginative name, isn't it?
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E-10 is Evil ... most of you know who I work for ... I have seen the data ... I will not use it until the last drop of unleaded is spent...
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As for the mileage you get out of E10 - it IS notably less than straight unleaded.
I believe the chemistry is straightforward - the ethanol molecule is smaller and with fewer atomic bonds yields less energy than the larger molecules of normal petrol, that have lots more atomic bonds that yield more energy when burned.
I also believe that the size of a molecule has not as much to do with how many of them will fit in a given space as you might think - which means that when you fill your tank up with E10, there is not as much energy stored in your tank as there would be if you had filled up with Unleaded.
The result of this is you will go through the E10 quicker than Unleaded.
I did an exercise on a driving trip from Sydney to west of Geelong and back a couple of years ago, where fuel tank capacity was closely monitored. Fuel consumption was calculated at every stop and it was clearly shown that E10 gave less km per litre. It was proven when one leg of the trip was put to the test - if filled up on Unleaded it was predicted we would reach a known stop - but if we used E10, we would have fallen short by 10 to 15 km. The Unleaded got us there, with the low fuel light showing. The E10 would not have made it.
As far as what this means for around the city driving - from my experience, you will be paying about the same price for fuel (per km travelled) using either E10 or Unleaded.
But if you want to get maximum range out of your fuel tank - give the E10 a miss.
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Brumby from the data I have at work E-10 causes severe condensation in engines, fuel system components and tanks.. BMW offered no warranty support when E-10 first hit the bowsers, their policy has changed I believe, but to what I'm not up to speed with, at work we have been testing our engines with E-10 in the Dyno room with results that lets say are disappointing, we continue to monitor the status Quo, our warranty has not changed since it was introduced on the proviso that no more then 10% ethanol is used.... our engines have always used Stellite valves form inception and this helps, but other components are still being effected...
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Sound similar to issue with LPG. Being a 'drier' fuel than petrol the impact on valve seats can be an issue. I believe Ford have been putting hardened seats in their motors for some time - which is why they are the popular choice for Taxis ... nearly all of which run on LPG. You can get an upper cylinder lubricant system to compensate - I've installed a few dozen 'Flashlube' units in my time (and I've seen a couple installed incorrectly, too.)
Your Dyno results are no surprise ... would I be close to guess the power loss being around 10% or more?
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Brumby the slight power loss is not the disappointment, it's the condensation that's a worry....
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ETHANOL NEWS:
Washington DC - Ethanol RFA issues warnings to Boat Owners.
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/objects/documents/848/important_news_for_boat_owners.pdf
FAA Issues Safety Bulletin on Ethanol Use in Airplanes.
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/alerts/saib/media/CE-07-06.pdf
Most auto and marine engine manufacturers have issued ethanol warnings this year, which state that using over 10% ethanol fuel will damage your engine and invalidate your warranty.
View more resources to learn the facts and warnings on ethanol fuel blends.
"If you are going to believe, know why you believe and back it up with something...".
Source ======== http://www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_fuel_disadvantages.html
Damage noted ======= http://www.fuel-testers.com/list_e10_engine_damage.html
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Calling all Melbournians who use LPG...
The cheapest LPG today is *grimace* in Diamond Creek. Caltex/Woolworths, 307 Diamond Creek Rd, Diamond Creek.
You will have to do the mathematics to work out whether the cost of driving there is too much to offset the savings entailed by filling up at 49.9 cents a litre.
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Never use E10 in your boat outboard motor. I now whack premium in my boat outboard sas I'm not sure whether ordinary unleaded has ethanol in it or not. I don't trust service stations.
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What a shame you cant use it for boats. We seem to spend a small fortune in summer on fuel for the boat and jetskis (not mine but I borrow my good friends)
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Asda is our cheapest, bit of a pity that it is too far to come,never mind.
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ello ello ello its
Mr Statler Mr Waldorf Mr Loggie ....hows things in the mother country ?
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Well the economy if failing as is the £, E bay have altered the R.T and driven a lot of the regulars away, my bowels are still regular, err, anything I have missed?
And how are you my fine fellow?
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hows your partner in crime Mr Mayhem ?
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Still insulting me! the cheek of the fellow, I taught him all that he knows and now he has turned, its a sad sad day.
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I taught him all that he knows
now theres something that one should not be proud of !!!!
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? he was in the poor house when I found him, he must be the first person to go down hill from there. ;D
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I just went and had a peek at the UK RT ....its a shocking set up isnt it ....worse than the Australian debarcle and thats saying something
whoever designed that should be publicly flogged and pineappled everyday for the rest of there natural lives
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Its hard work Mr Smee,I dont post much now, I go on a proboard where the set up is more to my liking.
Shame about the pineapple though, I might have liked that.
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whats a proboard ?
and yes I am sure a pineappling would be right up your alley Logsie ....
if you happen to stumble across Al bear in your posing travels could you give him a nudge and tell him to come and post here occassionally
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A proboard, its a forum all set up for you, you registar and its free (except for the adverts)
its quick and easy and clean, unlike E bay.
eg http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=escapefromebay&sid=731611522c8d1476da3fa0b16e8edfb6
I set it up for the disIllusioned posters on the R.T, unfortunately we have had one or two trolls so I have had to make it that I approve posters before they can enter, keeps the riff raff out ,you know.
Al bear is one of my admin, but he has been missing for over a week now, someone said he will be back this week, if so I will point him over here.
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LGP prices today:
BP 2Go Diamond Creek 274 Diamond Creek Rd 3089 Diamond Creek 49.4
Caltex/Safeway St Helena (Diamond Creek) 307 Diamond Creek Rd 3089 Diamond Creek 49.4
Mobil (7 Eleven) Camberwell 965 Toorak Rd 3124 Camberwell 49.9
Camberwell - close enough for me! I'll be filling up there.
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Unleaded Petrol prices today
Aa Doncaster 880 Doncaster Rd & Elizabeth St 3108 Doncaster 113.5
Caltex/Safeway Blackburn North 5-15 Blackburn Rd 3109 Blackburn North 113.5
Caltex/Safeway Doncaster East 987 Doncaster Rd 3109 Doncaster East 113.5
Aa Templestowe 2-4 Union St 3107 Lower Templestowe 114.9
Aa Heidelberg West 184 Bell St & Miller St 3081 Heidelberg West 114.9
Caltex/Safeway Bulleen 15-17 Manningham Rd & Bulleen Rd 3105 Bulleen 114.9
If you've an Everyday Rewards card, your petrol will be 109.5 cents per litre of course at the Caltex/Safeway petrol stations where ULP is 113.5 for everyone else.
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You people ave access to cheap fuel.
Up here :
ULP 91 RON is 1.46.9
ULP 95 RON is 1.56.9
With the Aussie dollar now almost at parity with the US dollar, why hasn't the price of fuel drop?
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You people ave access to cheap fuel.
Up here :
ULP 91 RON is 1.46.9
ULP 95 RON is 1.56.9
With the Aussie dollar now almost at parity with the US dollar, why hasn't the price of fuel drop?
Because the Government and the oil companies are inkahoots....
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You people ave access to cheap fuel.
Up here :
ULP 91 RON is 1.46.9
ULP 95 RON is 1.56.9
With the Aussie dollar now almost at parity with the US dollar, why hasn't the price of fuel drop?
I know - its actually gone up - the cheapest fuel here is 129.9 - yesterday it was 131.9.
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Yes, it has gone up, and I too was musing on WHY this was so, since - as you say - the Australian dollar's gone up like a floating cork.
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the $ has gone up , but so has a barrell of oil
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Cheapest LPG today (and has been for the last week):
Caltex/Safeway Balwyn 192 Whitehorse Rd & Jersey St 3103 Balwyn 25/11/10 49.5 cents / litre
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Pepsi Max, $7.95 a 20 pack, at Woolworths. I bought a few.
Pepsi Max is my fuel it keeps me running on all 8 cylinders
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Forecast for Northern Elko County
Updated: 2:37 PM PST on November 24, 2010
Very cold temperatures tonight...
Tonight
Mostly clear. West winds around 10 mph. Lows 6 below to 16 below zero.
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Forecast for Northern Elko County
Updated: 2:37 PM PST on November 24, 2010
Very cold temperatures tonight...
Tonight
Mostly clear. West winds around 10 mph. Lows 6 below to 16 below zero.
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Not that sort of fuel!
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LPG
Food Fuel Stop Collingwood Wellington St & Keele St Collingwood 3066
53.8 / litre
If you use the Woolworths Rewards card and want that 8 cent/litre discount, then:
Caltex/Woolworths Cheltenham 299 Charman Rd & Park Rd 3192 Cheltenham 08/12/10 2:38 PM
59.9 / litre (which translates to 51.9 using your discount).
Everywhere else has SHOT UP to over 63 cents a litre for LPG.
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Arrrgh... Up in Sydney, the regular Caltex/Woolworths servos do NOT offer ANY discounts on LPG 'at this time' (as per the sticker on every LPG bowser).
I did come across one at Seven Hills - but that's enough Km out of my way to make it questionable value.
Nevertheless, even with a slightly worse fuel economy (litres/100km) at even the higher prices, it's still got petrol beat!
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General price for fuel in my area this afternoon (multiple brands/sites):
| Unleaded E10 | | 137.9 |
| LPG | | 69.9 |
Christmas is here.
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Ho ho ho.
Clearly Santa Claus does not run his sleigh on LPG or Unleaded Petrol. He couldn't AFFORD to go dashing around the world to visit as many chimneys as there are Christmas trees in living rooms...
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Yep Countess, spot on. Mr. Claus runs his reindeers on Pepsi Max.
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Jingle Pepsi, Jingle Pepsi,
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a Pepsi-Max-fuèlled sleigh
OH! Jingel Pepsi, Jingle Pepsi... etc.
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Hmmmm.... words don't quite fit the tune - but I'm sure Ubbie will love it anyway. ;)
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Jingle Pepsi, Jingle Pepsi,
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a Pepsi-Max-fuèlled sleigh
OH! Jingel Pepsi, Jingle Pepsi... etc.
Must remember to put a lock on the OrZrt liqueur cabinet.... LOL
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Magnificent song Countess. It brought a tear to my eye.