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The Oz Round Table boards => The Round Table => Topic started by: Poddy on August 17, 2010, 04:58:06 PM
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Yeah I know it is a bit early to cut up the cadaver but there is nothing like being prepared :)
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snipe ;D
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Yeah I know it is a bit early to cut up the cadaver but there is nothing like being prepared :)
That was my reaction when I saw the thread!
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can we have a wager on how many times during the election coverage they say
"ok let's have a look at Dawson (for example)"
"oh I can see a definite swing there" .......... with only 0.3% of votes counted
then the other guy says, "but it's way to early to call"
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We could start the cutting now, I am of the opinion that the results are already known in some circles only we have not been told yet.
We have to go through the motions of believing the we, the people, are part of thge decision making process.
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There are certainly a lot of swingers in politics, and I for one would like to see a lot more pollies 'swing'
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We could start the cutting now, I am of the opinion that the results are already known in some circles only we have not been told yet.
We have to go through the motions of believing the we, the people, are part of thge decision making process.
Who then is our Prime Minister?
what is the overall result?
Can I do a Mark Latham & put in a blank form?
How much should I bet & what odds will I get?
Need to know tonight for better odds
We can all make some good money here, you got your house on it Poddy?
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I think we can assume Robertson is gone to the blue side
if you drive around the district you would not know there's an election on
I've seen maybe 2 posters for the labor candidate and none for the liberal guy
it was won by 184 votes last time and is usually a liberal seat ... and Belinda 'don't you know who I am' Neal did a great job in losing ground for labor
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Well I bet $10 to a hung parliment +-1 with independants holding the balance . If we have a pool the winners get 1/2 of the prize money the other 1/2 goes to poddys fav charity.
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Ela thems thar are burning and incisive questions.
Who then is our Prime Minister?
At the moment Foolya Julia is the Prim Monster, who it will be come Sunday is a closely guarded secret.
what is the overall result?
Pollies win people lose
Can I do a Mark Latham & put in a blank form?
It does not matter one way or another, going to the polling booth is just a ritual.
How much should I bet & what odds will I get?
Well you can bet your gonads or bippies depending which you have, that is if you still have any.
The odds are that what ever you bet on you will lose, as we all will.
Need to know tonight for better odds
The odds never change 0:1 their favour
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Well I bet $10 to a hung parliment
well that counts Julia out then unless she has bits that Im not aware of
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Probably just an envy on her part.
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Well I bet $10 to a hung parliment
well that counts Julia out then unless she has bits that Im not aware of
Julia gillotene does remind me of helen clark ex NZ PM I am sure Helen was well hung at one stage.
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I LOVE this thread..... Talk about "moving forward". ;D
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hahahaha just wait until late Saturday/Sunday when the surgical implements of mass discussion come out, wielded in the skillful hands of the posters here :)
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Well... I've got a couple of drums for the 'bits' - a large one and a small one - plus a red label and a blue label.
Which label do I put on which drum?
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Hmmmm Cut the red label and the blue lable in half and put half of each on each drum, that way you have an each way bet :)
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But .... But .... If you mix the bits - aren't you going to get a violent reaction? Possibly explosive?
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Nope, that won't happen the various bits will gravitate to either the left or the right and never the twain shall meet. There is also the force of mutual repulsion between the various bits.
Hower there may be some small green bits that are parasitic and will adher to the surfase of either the left side or the right side in a attempt to control which ever side they stick to at the time
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:roflmao:
Good point, Poddy.
(Sometimes, when you worry about the intricacies, you miss the obvious ...!)
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But .... But .... If you mix the bits - aren't you going to get a violent reaction? Possibly explosive?
Brums, won't you get a violet reaction?
Poddy, you gave me a bit of a fright - I thought I must have missed the vote last week!
As for putting in a blank form - might as well in our electorate. It is such a safe seat our MP doesn't even bother campaigning. The other parties haven't door-knocked or letter-box dropped or even made look-at-me appearances at the local football games or shopping centres. There hasn't been any write-ups in the local paper, not even any 'Vote for' signs around the neighbourhood. I wouldn't even have a clue who else is standing for election.
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VOTE: "None of the above" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQ8pgySec4)
(or should I put that in the pre-autopsy thread?)
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Wednesday night 10pm.
I am predicting that the Labor Government will be returned to office with a majority of seven seats!!
:uthewoman:
Love ya Julia
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As for putting in a blank form - might as well in our electorate. It is such a safe seat our MP doesn't even bother campaigning. The other parties haven't door-knocked or letter-box dropped or even made look-at-me appearances at the local football games or shopping centres. There hasn't been any write-ups in the local paper, not even any 'Vote for' signs around the neighbourhood. I wouldn't even have a clue who else is standing for election.
Update on the other candidates in our electorate. In this week's local free paper there was a write-up on each of the candidates and they admitted they haven't done much campaigning! The only candidate who lives locally is the current MP, all the others are ring-ins from other areas. As our MP has one of the safest seats it looks like it will be more of the same old, same old for many years to come.
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From vote7news
First Exit Poll: Bennelong poll of 100 voters taken between 9-10am showed LIB 53, LAB 29, GRN 13, OTH 2 and INF 3 #ausvotes 3 minutes ago via txt
Maxie mouth Maxie is in BIG trouble as postal and pre poll historically favours conservitive. Gilliard Gone?
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what a delight
we wont have see that smug arrogant face of maxine mckew any more
aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Perhaps a career move for Maxine might be in order.
May I suggest a career in Radio or TV? ;)
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BENNELONG Updated: 21/08/2010 7:47:07 PM
Projected Two Candidate Preferred
Polling Places Returned: 10 of 49 Votes Counted: 7.16%
| Candidate | Party | Votes | This Election (%) | Last Election (%) | Swing (%) |
| McKEW, Maxine | Labor | | 45.02 | 51.40 | -6.38 |
| ALEXANDER, John | Liberal | | 54.98 | 48.60 | +6.38 |
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too early to call !
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True ... but even at this stage, numbers like this aren't giving any warm and fuzzies...
Updated: 21/08/2010 7:48:59 PM
McKEW, Maxine primary vote swing is -9.00%
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too early to call !
I only said that cos thats all they say on tv so I wanted sound all official like I know the lingo
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Mckew has just conceded
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I wonder if Maxine is writing her application to Radio and or TV stations for a job?
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Twitter (#ausvotes) is saying hung parliment and that Melbourne has gone to the greens thanks to liberal preferences.
McEwen is still LIberal from what I can understand
Follow the #ausvotes in twitter is you can manage - I can't even keep up! ;D
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Hats off to Maxine she has exhonerated herself and has come across as fairly genuine
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Wokkie, McEwen result may not be final for a while, like last time.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/some-ballots-may-be-void-in-mcewen/story-e6frfku0-1225908237648
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I take that back, the Lib candidate is about to concede.
McEwen in VIC looks gone (to ALP). Cameron Caine expected to concede with short speech soon
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I take that back, the Lib candidate is about to concede.
McEwen in VIC looks gone (to ALP). Cameron Caine expected to concede with short speech soon
With Fran Bailey stepping down not long after the fires - I suppose inevitable. The seat was tight last time - looks like even more so - I wonder if the title hero' did the damage (Cameron Caine) was with Victoria police and 'helped' the people etc etc and stayed ont he mounting - I wonder if the label stuck in peoples throats?
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What a shame a hung parliament does not include the hanging of Politicians
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It looks like Wilson Tuckey wont get re elected - what a shock. I dont know if anyone saw that coming. Mind you I dont think many of us even understand why he normally romps it in. Interesting electorate though - its bigger than the whole state of NSW.
Our seat is still undecided - less than 3000 votes in the primary. I think it may go Labor (big call) and I think this has to do with the trainline than Allanah gave us. (smee will know all about this)
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I just checked our electorate of Scullin and surprise, surprise, our MP has 72.4% of the vote after preferences.
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Wednesday night 10pm.
I am predicting that the Labor Government will be returned to office with a majority of seven seats!!
:uthewoman:
Love ya Julia
I think its time for you to have a midnight snack TRALA!!
See I didn't forget the salt and pepper :)
Enjoy :)
(http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/ozrt/eating_crow_Trala.jpg)
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Having set up and closed a local nats / independent how to vote booth and witnessing for a first for me as a scrutineer at the end of the campaign . A sudden deep respect for the fairness and openness of the system. I do think the coalition has just won.
The problem now is are the greens logical, honest and fair?
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it appears that rudd & gillard both still think they are PM
I'm sure that after a day or two it will sink in that labor has lost
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/bouddiebay/415591-kevin-rudd.jpg)
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NSW woes won't hurt Gillard - Keneally
NSW Premier Kristina Keneally is confident her government's problems won't impact on federal Labor in the upcoming election
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Politics/2010/07/19/NSW_woes_wont_hurt_Gillard_-_Keneally_487111.html
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(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/bouddiebay/Screenshot2010-08-22at90228AM.png)
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Wednesday night 10pm.
I am predicting that the Labor Government will be returned to office with a majority of seven seats!!
:uthewoman:
Love ya Julia
I think its time for you to have a midnight snack TRALA!!
See I didn't forget the salt and pepper :)
Enjoy :)
(http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/ozrt/eating_crow_Trala.jpg)
FAAAAARK
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Well I bet $10 to a hung parliment +-1 with independants holding the balance . If we have a pool the winners get 1/2 of the prize money the other 1/2 goes to poddys fav charity.
No one took my bet phooey !!!
It was interesting scrutineering last night the booth I was in lower house Labour got less primary votes than the greens and the labour second / third preference went 1/2 to greens 1/2 to Nationals. While in the senate labour and green preferences went to each other with only a 2% leakage.
Labour did not try in the seat, it was a real slap in the face to the district and will show in state elections too.
If this trend is Australia wide I can see the Greens taking enough primary labour vote to be the DLP all over again. This may be the start of a second wilderness for Labour. The greens like the Democrats never give either party full reign and yet the blame always falls on the party in power, in the lower house . Even if the entire fault was because of Green / Democrate Senete demands.
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Shyer - Good onya mate for doing that job yesterday. It's an essential role - but so often forgotten - and seldom appreciated. I bounced off a comment to the local paper yesterday mentioning the above facts.
Centrebet paid $2.50 for your bet, by the way!
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on the subject of bets
I am wondering how the guy that put $200,000 on labor to win is feeling right now
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Don't worry bnwt.... with a bit of luck it was Bill Shorten!
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Blame-dodging Keneally 'on another planet'
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/blamedodging-keneally-on-another-planet-20100822-13ahe.html
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Punters back coalition to form govt
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/punters-back-coalition-to-form-govt-20100822-13aiw.html
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Bligh blame game begins in Queensland
http://www2.skynews.com.au/election2010/article.aspx?id=502953&articleID=
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bnwt.... Do you reckon you'd invest $250K on sportsbet.... even if it was Gillard's money???
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My pick after watching many elections is the postal /pre and absentee votes historically favour the conservatives. Thus I believe reps will be labour 70, coilition 74 with 1 green, 1 green / liberal and 4 conservative independants.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/election/a/-/article/7803426/coalition-cant-rely-on-wa-nats-vote/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/election/a/-/article/7803426/coalition-cant-rely-on-wa-nats-vote/)
While the above is just the start of bargaining it will exists for every conservative seat.
78 to 71 and a fence sitter in reps. And a hostile senate till july 2011 then commies like RED Rihinoon in a green dress, will make the senate toxic poision. Meanwhile labour and greens will be jostling for power within their own parties and blood will flow.
The senate will take a final stupid indefensiable position on the wrong issuse and Abbot will have the double dissillusion trigger on the topic he wants. LAbour and greens will then be decimated at that election one to two years from now. And labour state goverments in NSW and QLD in the same period wil suffer crushing falls .
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I wonder what its going to cost this country to get the wa nats on side.
We had a hung parliament after the last state election, then the liberal government bribed/negotiated the royalties for regions sheme to get their support to form government. It looks like they are asking for a billion dollars.
It not like they aren't spending the money wisely either - I mean we NEEDED a singing toilet in Bunbury. In fact we need more, they only cost $250,000 each.
http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky/a-250000-throne-fit-for-royalties-in-the-regions/story-e6frflri-1225867293890 (http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky/a-250000-throne-fit-for-royalties-in-the-regions/story-e6frflri-1225867293890)
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Not asking for millions...but this guy seems to be wishful thinking..lol....
From the Melbourne Herald Sun today....
PREFERENCE WAS FOR SALE
Disendorsed Family First candidate David Barrow created controversy during the week by shopping around his second preference on his how-to-vote cards to both major party candidates.
The email, seen by the Sunday Herald Sun, encouraged Labor's Laura Smyth and Liberal MP Jason Wood to pay for the printing of his cards in return for his support.
The email was asking for up to $3000. "Independent 2nd Prefs (sic) to you," the email read. "Below $2000 for 50,000 copies; below $3000 for 100,000 copies. Please call to discuss: could be 1 or 2 (per cent) of pref flows for either of you."
Australian Electoral Commission chief legal officer Paul Pirani said it might be a matter for Victoria Police.
"Because it was pretty much a lock-in 2 or 3 per cent for Family First to the Coalition, and now that I've been disendorsed, most of those people would just gravitate to the Liberals anyway," Mr Barrow said.
He opted to spend yesterday in Brisbane, rather than the La Trobe electorate in which he stood.
DAVID HASTIE
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I think I really like the lady in red..lol....
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/08/02/great-debate/
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that does not surprise me Roo - I actually think it happens more than we care to know.
We all know that the WA Nats support costs money - that deal has cost this state billions so far. Mind you - I do think they deserved a lot of that money - but I dont agree on how it is being spent, or where it is being spent.
Maybe I should try and sell my vote at the next election
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OMG !!! get 2 women on ANY subject that the believe in and no one can get a word in edgewise.
I am fully aware that women are more capable of multitasking but somehow I feel that while the mouth is engaged the ears are disengaged and they do not hear what the other is saying.
Don't get me wrong I am in full support of everyone vocalising their opinion regardless of wheather they are women, men, children or anywhere in between.
But FFS don't try to shout each other down, that tactic just does not work
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I have no doubt that once all the dust has settled a bit the surgical instruments will be produced and the bloodletting will begin.
Par for the course, there have to be some scapegoats led to the sacrificial alter to pacify the masses licking the inflicted wounds.
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Has anyone else noticed that just about every media picture of Julia Gillard is taken looking up her nostrills?
Once you notice it, it is so obvious that it becomes annoying
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No ... I hadn't.
But now I won't be able to do anything BUT notice it!
Thanks for that, Poddy.
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http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.australia.to/2010/images/stories/store/gillard.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D631:julia-gillard-on-abc-radio%26catid%3D100:just-in&usg=__cJ_oYxj5qRXJnmNSbwkW4UVSMkI=&h=313&w=470&sz=28&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=0qdktmFSOu_srM:&tbnh=158&tbnw=213&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djulia%2Bgillard%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1304%26bih%3D836%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=987&vpy=309&dur=3781&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=187&ty=133&ei=fj5xTI_kBYOWvAPA19hB&oei=fj5xTI_kBYOWvAPA19hB&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0
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Calls for Bitar's head after 'inept' campaign
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/calls-for-bitars-head-after-inept-campaign-20100822-13ayl.html
so many scores to settle ........... so little time
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Labor needs to face the fact that its position is down to an endemic weakness
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/labor-needs-to-face-the-fact-that-its-position-is-down-to-an-endemic-weakness-20100822-13az6.html
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Labor members bag party's 'faceless men'
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-members-bag-partys-faceless-men/story-fn59niix-1225908615586
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'Still too early' to call former Belinda Neal seat
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/23/2990345.htm?section=justin
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Odds shorten on next Labor leader
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/odds-shorten-on-next-labor-leader-20100823-13d2g.html
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Well looking like a 73 labour 73 lib result with 1 green and 3 rural independants. I read an interesting idea libs compromise with 3 rural independants even if it means demoting truss and joyce might treach them some manners.
And offer rudd the speakers chair, sold as partisan compromise, but also takes rudds vote away for most votes so 2 independants / libs need to cross the floor, before rudd can vote again
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The joke's on Julia Gillard
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/election/the-jokes-on-julia-gillard/story-fn5zm695-1225908590835
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Yeah Bnwt, it's going to be interesting to see who ends up in the Speakers chair. I can't see any of the independants taking the chair.
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Seats in Doubt
Electorates where the result is too close to call.
78.3% counted.
Last updated Mon Aug 23 03:57PM
| Time | Count % | Electorate | Held By | Margin | 2PP % | Swing | Predict |
| 15:27 | 78.6 | Boothby | L/NP | 2.9 | 50.5 | 2.5% to ALP | LIB AHEAD |
| 12:26 | 71.0 | Brisbane | ALP | 4.6 | 50.7 | 5.3% to LNP | LNP AHEAD |
| 15:12 | 81.0 | Denison | ALP | 15.3 | 52.4 | 12.9% from ALP | ALP RETAIN |
| 13:57 | 78.1 | Dunkley | L/NP | 4.0 | 50.4 | 3.6% to ALP | LIB AHEAD |
| 13:57 | 75.6 | Hasluck | ALP | 0.8 | 50.3 | 1.1% to LIB | LIB AHEAD |
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who in their right mind would want to be the speaker ?????
its a job for a complete and utter moron who has the glare of an angry mother
you have to listen to boring dopey twats call you Mr Speaker over 100 times in a 200 word speech
you also have to listen to other morons utter the words "Hear Hear" every 10 seconds and then put up with childish jeers from other morons
The only thing of importance you have to do all day is glare at the interupting morons and say the word order 10,000 times a day with a look of a stern moron on your face or put an even more stern face on ,and glare at the moron and call him/or her by the name of the seat she represents
What a sensless waste of human life !!!!
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It's just like a prefect on playground duty...
Someone has to be there to keep the kiddies playing nice ... err .... refereeing the dummy spits.
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Excuse me Mr Smee! What does that say about our electorate?
Our local MP is the Speaker! :lol: :lol:
And so was his father before him.
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I dont think they should use one of the reps as the speaker
for starters the speaker is supposed to be impartial and the current one certainly isnt he is far far far more lenient to the labour reps
secondly how can he represent his electorate properly if he has to be the prefect everyday
I reckon they should get Judge Judy in as the speaker .... she would sort the flockers out ....half of them would go home in tears
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who in their right mind would want to be the speaker ?????
its a job for a complete and utter moron who has the glare of an angry mother
you have to listen to boring dopey twats call you Mr Speaker over 100 times in a 200 word speech
you also have to listen to other morons utter the words "Hear Hear" every 10 seconds and then put up with childish jeers from other morons
The only thing of importance you have to do all day is glare at the interupting morons and say the word order 10,000 times a day with a look of a stern moron on your face or put an even more stern face on ,and glare at the moron and call him/or her by the name of the seat she represents
What a sensless waste of human life !!!!
sounds just like being a mother in a lot of ways.
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Mandi, just like a mum the speaker should send some of them to their room with no supper :)
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I reckon they should ask me to be the speaker. I can see myself now, in Parliament, sitting on the fancy chair with the faithful Barret 50 cal resting lovingly in my arms as I stare with dagger eyes at the members, emitting a low growl every now & then.
There would be none of that childish abuse & name calling rubbish.
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I can see it now .... Ubbie perched menacingly with his banner hanging proudly behind him bearing his motto......
Go ahead. Make my day.
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And the Australian Coat of Arms replaced by the Ubbs insignia - a can of pepsi max on one side and a pluto pup on the other. :lol:
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That idea had crossed my mind, Wheels ... but seeing as it's parliament, the emu and roo should probably stay.
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Labor unity under question as Arbib cancels TV spot
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/labor-unity-under-question-as-arbib-cancels-tv-spot-20100823-13in4.html
Keneally lashes out at Bligh's 'NSW disease' jibe
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/keneally-lashes-out-at-blighs-nsw-disease-jibe-20100823-13imy.html
Anna Bligh puts blame on Labor machine
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/anna-bligh-puts-blame-on-labor-machine/story-fn59niix-1225909126874
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Arbib 'faceless' in TV no-show
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/08/24/2991572.htm
GUTLESS
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So what is happening with the WA nats - they said that the coalition could not count on their support to form government. Has a deal been done with them? And if so - how much money has this cost? They are not cheap - as we found out after the state election.
its a bit scary having the independants have so much power in deciding who will be the next pm - I hope that any deals become public knowledge so that we can access whether it was worth it.
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Do we know who controls the senate yet?
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here's the senate results - summary
Party Continuing New Total
Liberal/National Party 16 18 34
Australian Labor Party 16 15 31
Australian Greens 3 6 9
Others 1 1 2
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thanks smee
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Looks like the greens are running aus for the next 3 years :peace:
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:( and they have changed their hue from green to red over the years, disruption in the name of concervation, God help us all !!!!
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Soylent Green ... we're Doomed ... recycle..eat a friend.
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I dont know which will be worse - listening to Bob Brown carry on or Bob Katter rabbit on.
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Labor war hurting bid for power
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-war-hurting-bid-for-power/story-fn59niix-1225909632518
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Rage against the machine
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/rage-against-the-machine/story-e6frg6z6-1225909581884
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Well looking like 4 rural independants 71 labour 74 Coalition and 1 watermelon party attached to the labour nipple. I realise the independants are bargaining .
But the bottom line is the indepandants stand to lose their seats if they do not try to work with the Coalition. For instance Oakshot "shot" to winning his seat when Leader of the nationals Vale now vale, spat the dummy after the kevin707 win. A strong National seat went at byelection from a vote of 55% primary nationals . To a primary vote of 70% to independant ex national oakshot known and strong support as independant state member. Labour did not even bother putting up a candidate. And oakshot about 47% primary vote in 2010.
Katter , Windor and oakshot are all ex nationals and HATED 101% by the nationals as tratiors. While their electorates like them. HOWEVER one big mistake means they are gone foever. No funding no party no helpers to stage a come back if they lose one election.
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It's very difficult to perform an autopsy on this election at this stage, since the "corpse" is still wriggling!
I find the result a frustrating one. I am not sure that the majority of Australians realise how difficult it will be to form a cohesive and productive government in this situation. In my opinon, it's almost inevitable that parochial interests will become a bargaining point. Rural interests SHOULD be an important part of the government's policies and actions; that does not mean particular geographical locations or minority issues should get an insistent voice (a voice that must be yielded to) simply because their representative is an Independent or Green with the ability to block wide-ranging policies and actions Australia-wide.
If the Independents and the Greens put aside their own wish-list and the particular interests of their own constituents, speaking primarily as an important voice for all of rural Australia, that'd be one thing.
Will it happen?
I sincerely doubt it.
I thought Oakeshott's suggestion that a govt be formed with Ms Gillard at its head and Malcolm Turnbull serving - or vice versa with Tony Abbott as its leader and Mr Swan serving - was inherently ludicrous.
There IS a reason why there are different political parties, Mr Oakeshott. They have different political views... If they didn't, they'd all form one party and there'd be no such thing as elections. For that matter, without different political views (and often very STRONG differences in political views), we'd all have the SAME political opinions and wouldn't see the point in voting for one party or another. There is a land where that happens... It's called La-La Land, and in that land there is no crime, no waste, no tears, and not only does the lion lie down with the lamb, but the lion actually gives the lamb a footrub.
In the real world, we DIFFER from each other. In the real world, we have individual concerns, and individual standards. We may form alliances and groups that share the same standards and concerns in many respects, but there are alliances and groups we would not wish - under any circumstances - to join.
By the way, does anyone else find the more-enlightened-than-thou stance of the Greens rather irritating? I find myself wanting to throw endangered hedgehogs at some of them... (*feels very guilty about this sudden passion for violence, but still, surreptitiously, looks around for endangered hedgehogs*)
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I tried throwing hedgehogs at them too but they kept getting stuck in my hands , so I tried Ardvaarks , Porcupines, and Spiney Ant Eaters as well and finally settled on hurling Armadillos as they hurt more if you hit the target
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"Sudden passion for violence" Nothing wrong with that Countess, it's good to let a bit of steam of.
I'd love to have a go at Hedgehog throwing, It sounds like fun!.
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Have you ever chucked a Three Toed Sloth at anyone Smee?
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I am pretty sure I have employed some in the past ...cant say Ive thrown them ... most are too heavy
I have it on good authority that you dont chuck a sloth you insert a thumb and 2 fingers and bowl them like a bowling ball .....not sure where you insert the digits though ????????
maybe thumb in mouth and a finger up each nostril ??????
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/hazley2004/three-toed-sloth.jpg)
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Hedgehog-throwing - the new sport.
Will it become an Olympic event?
Will hedgehog farms spring up to create the increasing demand?
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Hmmm.... Where to find Hedgehogs?
- an endangered species
- that nobody cares about
- throwing them out of an office is enshrined within the constitution
- a knife in the back is not a criminal offence
- hedging their bets
and
- hogging the limelight
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I'd try Parliament House for candidates
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If anyone's going to be throwing hedgehogs about, you can throw them my way. I love hedgehogs. Yumm!
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Keneally blames MPs for her falling popularity
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/keneally-blames-mps-for-her-falling-popularity-20100825-13s8a.html?autostart=1
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Let the games begin
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2010/08/26/Shorten_triggered_ousting_-_Langdon_505067.html