Oz Round Table
The Oz Round Table boards => The Round Table => Topic started by: low-enghooi on February 24, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
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I am having copious discussions with the server people. They too are tearing out their hair. They've shown me screenshots of the sites being up, and yet Tello cannot get in... I can get in sometimes, but at other times it's down for me (on several different computers, and on my iPhone)...
If you just want to login to the site, and don't want to worry about the technical details, OR you don't have a dongle to play with, I find www.opendns.com useful. It is fast. Best it is free.
Provided the site is up, I am pretty sure you will be able to login.
XP: https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/windows-xp
Vista: https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/windows-vista
Other platform/OS: http://www.opendns.com/support/category/13
*Please remember to write down your DNS settings before you make any changes.
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Thank you for the Vista link . I had a look last night at Vista. If I have further problems I will try it, but only if OH is around. I am a little nervous about trying something and getting into a tangle if it does not work ;D
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As many of you realise, I'm a computer dunce. What does this new DNS settings do & will it effect my other internet connections etc?
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Oh, I can 'get in', only when stuff is open.
*hint*
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DNS is a Domain Name Server.
It's basic job is to translate a URL into the correct IP address.
* A URL is a name like: www.ozroundtable.com - something we humans can understand.
* An IP address is like: 207.210.66.212 - something computers can use to send stuff around the internet efficiently.
As you can imagine, this translating of names into IP addresses is going on continuously - it happens every time you click on a link, select a favourite or type a name into the address bar of your browser - before it communicates with the site you actually want to get to.... and it happens for every person on the internet.
This is what a Domain Name Server does.
The amount of traffic for this little exercise is huge. It is obvious that no one computer can handle the job but, even if it could, the traffic jam to get to it would be immense.... so they simply have lots of these DNS servers around, with copies of the same information. (You will have a default DNS that you will automatically be sent to for resolving IP addresses, but you can change that.)
Fortunately for DNSs, website servers are allocated an IP address and tend to keep it for a long, long time. This is good for having lots of domain name servers scattered around the world, since it means once an entry has been received, it is good for a long while - so there is no requirement for the DNS's around the world to get frequent updates. But updates do happen ... New websites, moving a site to a new server for example.
When these changes occur, they must be sent across the whole internet to all the DNSs - and, because they are low priority, this takes time. When someone tells you it could take 24 hours for a new (or moved) website to be 'found' - this is the reason why.
One other little trick to reduce the DNS traffic is for your computer to remember the IP address, so it doesn't have to look it up over and over again. This is called your DNS cache. (sound familiar?) If it contains an 'old' IP address, then it will try sending your information to the wrong place which just won't work - so 'flushing' it cleans out all its entries and forces your computer to go to a DNS for (hopefully) the updated address.
This is where Low's suggestion is relevant ... some DNSs are better for getting more up-to-date info. The one he mentions, however, is located in San Francisco - so your DNS lookup will have to travel across the Pacific and back, before you can head for the website. So long as we don't have tens of thousands of people doing this, it's no big deal.
But, as I understand it, after the dust has settled around the server, the default DNS you are sent to should have the right address within 24 hours.
But you still need the website server to be running to actually then get into the website - and ours is still yo-yoing like the Coca-Cola demonstration team...
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I am so IPissed off!
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Take a number...!
(But not at you, Countessa!!)
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42
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Very interesting Brum6y. I understand your plain English explanation. I have found my current DNS settings & have written them down. I also followed the instructions low-enghooi attached to his post, thanks low-enghooi.
I have not taken the final step, yet, and changed my DNS settings as the site is working fine at this time.
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For how long?
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Good question Tello & I don't know the answer. Countess has done so much to get it going but, it's continued operation is out of her hands.
I'm sure, once the bugs are ironed out, it will run just fine.
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Smee & I agreed that we need to keelhaul the rotters.
You good?
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Now, THAT'S a plan.....
I'll bring a couple of spare ropes - we might need them!
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You can have some of the long strands of hair I've been pulling out.
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I don't see anything funny about this!
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It is not funny to pull out hair, either :( :shakehead:
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Ripper, a keelhauling. I'm ready, I'm always ready for a keelhauling. The more ropes the merrier.
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... So we're off to Atlanta, are we?
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Check the weather reports in advance.
They got snow.
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Yep looks like it. Based on Tello's advise, pack your cold weather gear.
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After-Keelhauling Party at Tello's!
North-East Nevada has the best weather in North America!
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http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
Hahaha. Don't try.
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100
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Not good?
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What?
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Just as the site started playing "silly buggas" I noticed there were "52 online"
What was the special occasion?? LIke...were the three Amigos going to do a belly dance or
was a keelhauling about to happen?? just wondering.
Westie
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Hmmmmm the 3 Amigos doing a belly dance... I'd like to see that!!!! :rofl:
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Helllloooooooooo Fluffy one...how are you
off topic I know but they mightn't notice..
I am home today meant to be doing my BAS but so far I am dum....dum..dummm
got to have it done by tonight lol
Hope you are good
Westie
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Hmmmmm the 3 Amigos doing a belly dance... I'd like to see that!!!! :rofl:
Don't count on it!
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It takes 'Guts' to be a belly dancer....
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(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r271/rontello/Ron%20Tello%20pix/WTF-CaptTello.jpg)
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http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
Hahaha. Don't try.
What?
tello, I was asking about the google public DNS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :kisslittle:
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Oh. Sorry, not my department.