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Title: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 05, 2010, 07:23:58 PM
This is the first time I have seen this phenomenon ... The Aussie dollar is worth MORE than the US dollar on eBay.

Here is a cropped screen shot of 3 items I have on my watch list - as they appear right now:

(One wonders how far it will go - and how it will 'correct' in the future, as I expect it will.)

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Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on November 05, 2010, 08:06:49 PM
Struth. There's a load in me loo that's worth more than the USD.

 >:(
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: mandurahmum on November 05, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
Its great for us - not so much for the US citizens.  There economy is in real trouble with gdp and debt at nearly the same level.

Oh well that what happens when you elect a president who offers no more than slick rhetoric. 
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on November 05, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
I dint elect that traitor. I knew he was bad from the git-go. I blame the flocking Libtards for the mess we have......
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: mandurahmum on November 05, 2010, 11:36:43 PM
I am with you Tello - I would not have elected him either - he is all style no substance. 

He broke one promise - the closing of gitmo within 1 year - that he should not be forgiven for.  Everyone knows its a sham - you charge them, you give them a fair trial and then you punish them. 

I am also glad he cancelled his visit here - it would cost us too much money for a one term president, and it is just not worth it.  If he was going to come over it should have been during the black saturday memorial - ffs he did not even send a representative - even though Hillary was in Indonesia at the time.  That too me was a slap in a face, not the sort of thing you do to a country that has supported you.

Anyway Julia probably has an ipod already



Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: Poddy on November 06, 2010, 12:39:34 AM
Oh well that what happens when you elect a president who offers no more than slick rhetoric.

Joolya!! and Oh Bamma are birds of a feather   
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: mandurahmum on November 06, 2010, 02:11:55 AM
Quote from: *Poddy* on November 06, 2010, 12:39:34 AM
Oh well that what happens when you elect a president who offers no more than slick rhetoric.

Joolya!! and Oh Bamma are birds of a feather   

And so is Tony - most politicians are.  Wilson Tuckey though was certainly not slick.  Hockey is not slick either - he comes across as a bully - and no one would ever want a bully for a Prime Minister.

But really. Obama was a law professor and an attorney - that should have worried everyone - cause lawyers have a way of making the truth look like the fairy tale, and they have a love affair with their own voice.

But it will be interesting to see what happens

Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *wheels* on November 06, 2010, 08:32:53 AM
It's great isn't Brums to watch the price of things drop for a change.

I've just made my first purchase using HopShopGo as the mail forwarder so I'll keep you updated as to what their service is like compared to MyUS. They sent me a bonus $15 shipping voucher and the shipping was only going to cost $20 so I thought I'd give them a go.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on November 06, 2010, 02:56:55 PM
Petrol on our cereal!
It's cheaper than milk.



http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2010/11/05/food-price-inflation-no-longer-theoretical/ (http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2010/11/05/food-price-inflation-no-longer-theoretical/)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: moonlight on November 06, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
it is good news if buying from the US and others.
I have just ordered a heap of stuff from mikesXS.net - Yamaha 650 dealer in the USA.
Should be able to give the old banger a bit of a tart up for the summer riding season

 ;D
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 06, 2010, 05:21:08 PM
dont talk about the Mrs like that !
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on November 06, 2010, 05:34:59 PM
LOL @ the New Kid!

Smee: >:-/
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Ubbie Max* on November 06, 2010, 09:35:41 PM
Paypal's exchange rate is not quiet at parity though. I just bought something for fly tying from a USA seller & got about.8919. Still, that's not bad though.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on November 07, 2010, 12:12:43 AM
Did you use your card's exchange rate or allow PayPal to calculate the rate?

(I always, always use my card's rate of exchange.)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
Yes, it seems PayPal don't give the same price when you purchase.

One of my recent purchases was for an item located in Hong Kong, but listed in French with a price in Euros. I set myself a target price and waited for the exchange rate to bring it under that price - as displayed on the eBay listing calculation. WHen I purchased and paid, the PayPal payment came through at a slightly worse rate, which put me 50 cents on the wrong side of my target. Still, it was only 50 cents (on a $30 purchase).

I cracked a wry smile, though, when the exchange rate improved over the next two weeks ... and I could have picked the item up for a whole dollar less.

I blamed Murphy for that. (Apologies to Tommy)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 01:53:29 PM
Paid for an item today, just now - and here's what Paypal offered:

PayPal exchange rate of 1 AUD = 0.989438 USD on 7 Nov 2010.

I checked the figures on the other items I mentioned in my OP, and they haven't changed.


Is it me, or does it seem rather peculiar that eBay uses more attractive rates than buyers will actually get when they buy using Paypal?

Even more especially because of eBay's OVERWHELMING insistence that Paypal is the only really safe way to pay for things.....
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Ubbie Max* on November 07, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
Countess. Re Reply #13. How do you use your card's exchange rate? My Visa debit card is registered with Paypal & when I pay for something the payment defaults to the Paypal Ex rates. Am I missin something?

Brum6y re above. It appears that way. What you see on Ebay is not what you pay if using Paypal & paying for something listed in overseas currency. Paypal ex rate is about 2% worse than the going rate at the time.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
its really no different than if you go through a money exchange company they charge a small percentage for the transaction and their exchange rates are always slightly different to the official rate
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on November 07, 2010, 06:52:06 PM
Ubbie, it's not obvious... but you can select it when sending money or making a payment.

Next time I make a PayPal payment, I'll take some screenshots.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Ubbie Max* on November 07, 2010, 07:07:28 PM
Thanks Countess. I'll keep a watch out.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *wheels* on November 07, 2010, 07:27:26 PM
Most Banks charge a commission on foreign exchange just like PayPal. It's a bit hard to compare on a Sunday but my creditcard (Westpac Visa) is currently using    0.9884 exchange rate (Friday 5/11 4.30pm). Not much different to PayPal.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
OK Paypal ..... which is it?!!!

The online confirmation of payment (given earlier) was:
PayPal exchange rate of 1 AUD = 0.989438 USD on 7 Nov 2010.
The figure in my Paypal account is:
Exchange rate:  1 Australian Dollar = 0.989438 US Dollars
  which are, as expected, the same ..........

BUT, the email confirmation gives me this:
Exchange rate: 1 AUD = 0.988429 USD


This is for the same payment.

How hard can it be?
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 08:40:55 PM
Brumby , you are correct in that they show show the same , but the difference is $1 in $1000 ....

 or 1c in every $10 !
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
Indeed, Smee, the difference is not huge, but the point is - they are DIFFERENT.  Even $1 in $1,000,000 is a difference - and I do not see why there should be ANY difference.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
is it possible that its slightly changed to round it up or down  to the nearest 1c or someting .... do the maths on the total amount of the transaction and I would suggest that may be the case !  
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 08:55:53 PM
I was working on a theory when I read that last post, Smee... and I think I have a theory that makes cents sense, of sorts:

The amount of the transaction involved was $5.98 USD.

Using the rate 0.989438, the AUD amount comes out at 6.04383499 and rounding this you would expect to be debited $6.04 - BUT Paypal debited me $6.05

Surprise, surprise - the exchange rate required for that calculation (to 8 decimals) is 0.98842975

Seems Paypal can't afford to lose even two fifths of a cent.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 09:04:52 PM
its not just paypal that do it Brumby ....gst is the same ...when collecting/charging gst you must round up , never down , or at least thats the way it was when I had to do the gst stuff it may have changed in recent years but I doubt it ...always had to be rounded up
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 09:07:47 PM
Can't say I can comment on that, but whatever the process followed, I still find it bizarre that a different exchange rate is cited.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
well you have the answer now , its to have the correct rate for the rounded up transaction


just on the gst thing an example is if I sold something for $189 the gst @10% is $17.812 it would have to show as $17.19 .....as I say thats the way it was a few years ago so only assuming its still the same
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 10:26:11 PM
I understand the idea ... but I suggest you send the 'Larry Adler' calculator back.  The rounding function has issues... ;)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 10:40:27 PM
sorry the $17.812 should read $17.1812  if thats  what do you mean and it wasnt a calculation mistake it was a typing error I missed the first 1 after the . 
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on November 07, 2010, 11:22:13 PM
Just having a friendly dig....
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *smee* on November 07, 2010, 11:37:33 PM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p74/EmotiClogzz/Dig.gif)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on November 08, 2010, 01:56:05 AM
Grave Robbing!

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p74/EmotiClogzz/Dig.gif)  :ripzombie:
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on December 26, 2010, 02:37:35 PM
We're back in the same territory, just - well eBay-wise anyway....

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Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on December 26, 2010, 03:08:07 PM
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK?????

C):-{=  <" Oh! as IF these sauced limeys reeeeeally wannnnaaaa know..." <<

 :tello: brb....


[YOU Flockers REALLY DO! wanna Archive this stuff. Cuz I'll be done soon & YOU will have a Tello no more.

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 :bigcalibre: :smee!:

 :tello: :duckdance: :tosscoin: :motorbikeride: :drummer: :kilt: :band: :leadguitar: :guitar:  :funaward: :wtf: :keelhaul:

[1 more wisecrack from ANY-A-YEZ....and I'm gonna "Crack My Romex 'Cat-O-Nine Volt Lives'!"...]
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on December 26, 2010, 04:22:04 PM
OYEZ, OYEZ. Wisecracks banned on pain of cracked romex, whatever that is. The populace is warned hereafter that ye use of wisecracking is only permitted with special permit signed by the Head of the Wisecrack Bishopric, OzRT.

Back to the parity of the dollar... http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=USD;to=AUD;amt=1
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 01, 2011, 05:29:24 PM
I don't know that I have ever seen this phenomenon before ... but ALL of the foreign exchange rates from the Commonwealth Bank for the US Dollar are over $1 - for buying AND selling


CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0627  1.0643  1.0704  1.0023  1.0004




... and my seller friend got this for a PayPal payment today...

The exchange rate for this purchase is 1 Australian Dollar = 1.00907US Dollars
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on April 01, 2011, 05:31:37 PM
Holy Currency Rate!
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 02, 2011, 06:09:58 AM
"The rates quoted below are current as at 2:53am (Australian EST) on 2/04/2011 and are subject to change."

.... and they are even further up!


CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0685  1.0702  1.0809  1.0047  1.0014
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: tellomon on April 02, 2011, 03:52:23 PM

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r271/rontello/ODD%20Stuff/Redshoppingcartimage.jpg)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 07, 2011, 10:53:27 PM
The trend continues...

"The rates quoted below are current as at 11:32am (Australian EST) on 7/04/2011 and are subject to change."


CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0705  1.0721  1.0782  1.0081  1.0062


The buying rates have eased a little - but the selling rates are still edging up.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 08, 2011, 04:46:28 PM
The trend continues...

"The rates quoted below are current as at at 2:59pm (Australian EST) on 8/04/2011 and are subject to change."


CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0803  1.0819  1.0880  1.0169  1.0150

We are well past parity now ... the question is - how far will it go and how long will it last?
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 09, 2011, 01:02:45 PM
"The rates quoted below are current as at at 3:52am (Australian EST) on 9/04/2011 and are subject to change."

CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0849  1.0866  1.0973  1.0212  1.0179
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on April 09, 2011, 03:31:41 PM
It's an interesting situation, certainly. Yahoo's currency converter is stating that AUD 1.00 is equal to USD 1.0563 at present.

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/currencies/converter/#from=AUD;to=USD;amt=1 (http://au.finance.yahoo.com/currencies/converter/#from=AUD;to=USD;amt=1)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 11, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
As at time of post:

PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.02617 USD



From the Commonwealth Bank Foreign Exchange Rates web page:

"The rates quoted below are current as at at 9:54am (Australian EST) on 11/04/2011 and are subject to change."

CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.0848  1.0864  1.0925  1.0228  1.0209
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on April 11, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
Cheeky PayPal - I get a better conversion rate buying overseas using my card at the moment.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 11, 2011, 05:17:48 PM
I've had a couple of small value transactions through PayPal and through my credit card - and although the exchange rates from the card are always better than PayPal, there are the fees to add to the cost.  PayPal roll it all together.

The difference (from my limited dealings) was not huge.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 11, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.02904 USD

I think I will stick to this figure ... as it's more meaningful for this membership.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 12, 2011, 09:29:34 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.02127 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 22, 2011, 12:34:48 AM
It did go back a bit, but now its...

PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.04712 USD


... and for interest's sake:

From the Commonwealth Bank Foreign Exchange Rates web page:

"The rates quoted below are current as at at 6:46pm (Australian EST) on 21/04/2011 and are subject to change."

CurrencyCODEBank buys
IMT´s		Bank buys
Foreign
Cheques		Bank buys
Cash, T/chq´s		Bank sells
IMT´s & Drafts		Bank sells Cash,
Travel Money Card,
T/chq´s
US Dollar  USD  1.1018  1.1034  1.1195  1.0373  1.032
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 28, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.05265 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on April 29, 2011, 01:15:09 AM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.06496 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 04, 2011, 07:06:57 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.06342 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 06, 2011, 11:27:31 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.03701 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 24, 2011, 07:36:35 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.02881 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *CountessA* on May 25, 2011, 01:04:17 PM
Seems a little wobbly.
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 25, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
That's FOREX for you....
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Yibida* on May 25, 2011, 02:42:01 PM
Quote from: *Brum6y* on May 25, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
That's FOREX for you....


I'll have half a dozen of them while your at it Brums...
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 25, 2011, 02:53:33 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/brumbymg/ozroundtable-com/FacepalmLion.jpg)
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 25, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
I just remembered .... Yibster - you don't get images at work, do you?

Guess you'll just have to wait until you get home, then.....






Back to work...
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Yibida* on May 25, 2011, 02:59:05 PM

GRrrrrrrrrrrrrr ....
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on May 31, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.04257 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on June 18, 2011, 09:01:39 AM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.03301 USD
Title: Re: The Aussie Dollar on eBay
Post by: *Brum6y* on June 28, 2011, 09:24:37 AM
PayPal exchange rate:
1 AUD = 1.01652 USD