Author Topic: IS PAYMATE IN BED WITH PAYPAL? (Read 44174 times)

shyer · « **Reply #50 on:** August 01, 2010, 05:54:58 PM »

Rebel What catagories and average $ figure are we talking about? Ie china collectables averaging $500 have a buyers demographic 100% different to $10 chinese porn DVD buyers. You need to protect yourself against different problems in different sectors and different price brackets.

All email accounts are legitiamte that you control. You just do not use some of them for P$P or ebay.

*smee* · « **Reply #51 on:** August 01, 2010, 05:59:12 PM »

you are not giving them access so they can withdraw money you are suppllying them with account details so they can deposit the money from your sales when you request to withdraw your funds from sales , they will not take money from your account unless you purchase something and dont have enough in paypal to pay for it .... that will not happen in this instance coz he is setting it up to sell only ..

no the email addresses can be different , the names could be different even ...put it this way if your mate didnt want to set up a paypal account he could say use mine it just means I would get the money for his sales ... the 2 are completely seperate things

Roo · « **Reply #52 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:25:46 PM »

About the 10 feedback thingie...

Isn't it 10 purchases with people using Paypal as a payment method?

I don't think it's just 10 feedback.

Roo · « **Reply #53 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:28:14 PM »

BTW Rebel...tell your friend to chill out a bit....don't get them all paranoid about using Paypal.

The odds are that they will actually find it an easy way to accept payments...and there is no fee these days to draw money out of it anymore.

Like anything....you just need to be alert...not alarmed.

*smee* · « **Reply #54 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:28:40 PM »

its just 10 feedback as a seller ... payment method doesnt matter ...
at least that is how the rules read

Roo · « **Reply #55 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:31:52 PM »

Oh...OK...Smee.....I thought it was 10 using Paypal.

Thank you for the clarification.

*smee* · « **Reply #56 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:35:51 PM »

just to clarify copy and paste from eBay rules

How do I link my Paymate account to eBay?
You’ll need to meet the seller requirements for linking a Paymate account:

Active seller account on eBay.com.au
Feedback count (as a seller) of at least 10 in the last six months
Feedback rating of at least 98% positive

Rebel1 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:40:55 PM »

Thanks Smee, that makes sense, but I had heard that in taking money out of that account to verify you, they are in fact gaining a direct debit authority on that occasion. Just want to check if it goes beyond that because Debit authorities are bloody hard to get rid of.

BTW, even though it's only 'seller feedback' they require, what you are missing is that there is no way to list on ebay for him unless he uses paypal. So he's stuck with having to join. Whether buyers use b/deposit during that period, isn't relevant. You're right there, but he has to offer Paypal to get access to sell doesn't he?

Shyer, He and his wife have a house and garage full of lovely items, some very valuable.

Things like antique tools, antique fittings for cabinets, doors etc, old lamps and light fittings, and an array of other things like the old copper sprayers, antique fireplace items etc. We're rural, there are garages and sheds all over the place breeding more and more things in the dark and they're full of treasures that no longer get listed on ebay in any number since 2008.

Some of his antique tools I've researched and they're worth quite a bit of money, so I've told him to hang on to them till he gets enough feedback to earn trust. Things like antique planing tools that a carpenter friend of mine says are worth heaps and much sort after due to their superior quality. Some of his things don't belong on Ebay that's for sure. He'll get more money for rare items with specialist marketplaces like traditional auction houses.

In fact, I've told him to start small for now, with inexpensive items that he doesn't mind taking a loss on, and which will fit into satchels so he has no disputes over postage in this first round. For a new seller, this is all very complicated.

He has some toys, but they're things those old trains from the 50's etc, and all the stuff that went with them, not junk. His Wife has a big linen closet of collected linen some of which dates back to her grandmother. I've shown her a few linen sites and the prices they charge for antique linen on a retail price. Incredible. So that too, might be better being sold in a specialised market, but some could go on ebay.

With no previous feedback, they can't do much else but list items they don't mind taking a loss on for now.

Roo · « **Reply #58 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:42:27 PM »

But you can't charge extra for anyone using Paypal...that would be the quickest way to get your friend's account kicked off Ebay...

http://help.ebay.com.au/Help/Policies/Selling_-_listings/Payment_surcharges

Roo · « **Reply #59 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:48:07 PM »

Active seller account on eBay.com.au
Feedback count (as a seller) of at least 10 in the last six months

Ahhhh..that is what I was thinking of.....so seeing as I haven't sold on Ebay for a couple of years....I would still need to get those 10 feedback up my sleeve using Paypal as an option.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Roo on August 01, 2010, 06:28:14 PM

BTW Rebel...tell your friend to chill out a bit....don't get them all paranoid about using Paypal.

The odds are that they will actually find it an easy way to accept payments...and there is no fee these days to draw money out of it anymore.

Like anything....you just need to be alert...not alarmed.

I'm not getting anyone all paranoid about anything Roo, I'm assisting them to understand how to get the answers they need having spent hours already on Paypal's site and being none the wiser on these particular aspects.

Also, they themselves would prefer not to accept Paymate or Paypal but they have no choice. I hardly think advising them of that simple fact inspires alarm. It's a fact. If it were up to them, they'd accept b/deposit or cash on pick up, even personal check. But they don't have that choice do they? So they've decided that Paypal has a worse reputation than Paymate and still they can't make a choice to use Paymate until they first join Paypal? It makes no sense to them and it makes no sense to me, but there you have it. Selling on ebay is 'Easy' apparently.

How do you get paranoia out of that?

*smee* · « **Reply #61 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:52:39 PM »

yes Roo as an option but they dont all have to use it ... thats what Rebel's initial complaint was, that paypal was needed to be set up before her friend can open paymate as hasnt yet got any selling f/back

Roo · « **Reply #62 on:** August 01, 2010, 07:04:12 PM »

Quote from: *smee* on August 01, 2010, 06:52:39 PM

yes Roo as an option but they dont all have to use it ... thats what Rebel's initial complaint was, that paypal was needed to be set up before her friend can open paymate as hasnt yet got any selling f/back

Hmmm..yes...Ebay won't let you sell unless you give THEIR prefered payment method a shot first.

I guess they hope that most people will just keep using it because they can't be bothered trying something else.

Actually...for sellers of low priced items, Paypal actually may be the best 'safe' option to choose...seeing as they have now removed the $1 fee for transfering funds back to your bank account.

I still would prefer not to use it for higher priced items though....as a seller anyway.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 01, 2010, 07:07:49 PM »

For longer standing ebay members, (who stopped selling 2 years ago) but with a significant feedback rating nonetheless and previous selling record, Paymate might verify without returning sellers being forced to join Paypal. I am currently looking into that option so I don't personally have to have a bar of Paypal if I decide to sell some things myself. That's my choice, and that's what I've stood for since the Rebellion to this present day. I don't consent to being forced to use Paypal under any circumstances. I wish I didn't have to use Paymate, but I have no choice. It comes down to the lesser of two evils in my book.

Whether my friend with no feedback decides to keep using Paypal after he has qualified, is purely up to him and his wife. Though I very much doubt it. The net is FULL of horror stories from disgruntled Paypal customers.

What I'm raising attention to is the fact that as new mum and dad sellers (not business sellers by any means), it's all very complicated. I'm at a loss to explain the Paypal side of it, but I can help them with listings, how to describe things and to price postage.

I agree that it is complicated myself in comparison to a few years ago, speaking as a previous seller myself. It's much more complicated than it once was, and that's why I've asked these questions here. So the advice is hopefully close to accurate. I have no idea how to negotiate Paypal and hope I never have to learn. I'm looking into a different means of being verified with solid feedback to fall back on. My friend doesn't have that option.

*Yibida* · « **Reply #64 on:** August 01, 2010, 07:12:51 PM »

Ebay have it all sewn up... they have you by the short and curlys dudes... it's as simple as... if you don't have Paypal you don't sell ... period

Flock ebay... no amount of complaining to anyone is going to change the status Que... that is unless thousands complain... which judging by the amount of interest and the hords that have left ebay it's just not going to happen... I have accepted this now that they would rather self destruct than bend to anyone's will...

Rebel1 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 01, 2010, 07:15:58 PM »

bending to common sense would be a good start. lol

shyer · « **Reply #66 on:** August 02, 2010, 10:00:32 AM »

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 01, 2010, 06:40:55 PM

Shyer, He and his wife have a house and garage full of lovely items, some very valuable.
Some of his antique tools I've researched and they're worth quite a bit of money, so I've told him to hang on to them till he gets enough feedback to earn trust. ,,,,,Some of his things don't belong on Ebay that's for sure. He'll get more money for rare items with specialist marketplaces like traditional auction houses.
In fact, I've told him to start small for now, with inexpensive items that he doesn't mind taking a loss on, and which will fit into satchels so he has no disputes over postage in this first round. For a new seller, this is all very complicated.
Incredible. So that too, might be better being sold in a specialised market, but some could go on ebay.
With no previous feedback, they can't do much else but list items they don't mind taking a loss on for now.

Selling any thing worth over $1000 is a tall ask on ebay and a loss making exercise without 500 feedback in my experierce and 99% feedback or better and great stars. I would build feedback with small $1 buys yes is time consuming but if you buy a piece of ribbon for $1 you can sell that ribbon for $1 and $1 spent will generate two feedbacks and one sale. You will only need to spend $250 or so very cheap advertising.

Over $500 amounts and the scammers are locked on to ALL SECTORS, you look at surfs inside posts. PAymate is only slighly better than P$P as many ways for crooks to use chargebacks ever after 3 months. P$P will also start holding funds for security as well once receivng P$P account in collectables goes over about $5000 a month, even on a fully verifided given P$P the right to direct debit account any time they like. You through interest and charge backs need to expect a extra loss of about 10%. AFter 3% ebay and 3% P$P/paymate fees.

Eventually they will need multiple selling IDs each using both their names and home and work address and second ISP conection and a cheap old computer. Ebay and P$P are constantally spying and sharing info.

You will also upset people with dear transport for everything to fight claims that are fightable. Some are not and enough scammers already know the method, to detail in an open forum.

You are right start small selling but big buying and slowly increase value and rumber of items for sale. You do not need to make a loss just see if ebay sells that item at better than wholesale, keep an eye on compleated auctions save old auctions world wide to back up a BIN price . In collectables mark up can be 100%.

Use the post office COD system over $300 is much safer for the sellers. Most buyers like the saving in costs over any credit card system. It never ceases to amaze me how many bidders ( over 50%) will chearfully place $10 bids ( ebays min increase) over $400 then want to save $3 by not regeristing the item or paying $6 on insurance

*wheels* · « **Reply #67 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:12:38 PM »

Rebel, get your friend to open an online bank account to link to their PayPal account. It only needs to have a few dollars in it and that way you don't have to give your personal account details to PayPal. Mine is with ING Direct. It is also a good idea to have separate emails and IDs for your eBay account and your PayPal account. I've never deposited any money into my PayPal account, but if your friend wants to buy anything on eBay, then they could transfer funds from the same linked account as PayPal is definitely the safest payment method for buyers to use on eBay.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:43:44 PM »

Thanks Wheels, I figured as much, but they don't want to buy anything, they're trying to get rid of things. So they don't really need to deposit funds. Also, from my updated chat today with them, they only want to join Paypal long enough to qualify for Paymate and then cancel the paypal account. It's not hard for novices to get turned off when they read the horror stories all over the net about Paypal.

Many of the larger things they want to list will be pick up only anyway, so I've advised them to put those items on Gumtree also to give them the most exposure first and then list them on ebay once in a while at the price they want to see if they can get a bite that way inexpensively too.

I think this whole Paymate pre-requisite for feedback with Paypal, is absolute bullshit and just another example of Ebay misusing their market power. This time it resembles third line forcing. Wonder how long it will take them to test the whole TPA and emerge each time equally unscathed.

*wheels* · « **Reply #69 on:** August 03, 2010, 04:30:27 PM »

Cupie, eBay now also has the Local Classifieds section for Pick Up only listings. I think the listing and pics are free but I don't know how the FVFs compare.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #70 on:** August 03, 2010, 04:52:06 PM »

Who's cupie?

*FluffyDuckee* · « **Reply #71 on:** August 03, 2010, 07:27:59 PM »

That's obvious.. always was.....

Rebel1 · « **Reply #72 on:** August 03, 2010, 08:49:38 PM »

Really? why so? care to elaborate on this so called presumption and where it is being discussed that it requires a collective response that seems contrived and pre-convened ? do you represent a consensus? or is that just coincidental?. Who's next I wonder? How cosy eh? Want to play a game called 'cards on the table' fluffy? I suggest you keep your otherwise unsubstantiated (and seemingly collectively 'subjective' assumptions perhaps in places I can't respond to) Isn't that the way it's done here? (or so I've heard) Hearsay is a bugga isn''t it? Problem is 'word gets around' Just ask Julia and Kevin.

Unless you want to debate whatever it is that appears to be so hilariously obvious (to an apparent few) and deserving of this kind of subjective prejudice.

Feel so inclined to debate me or 'cupie' whoever that person be, openly here and now? And if you suspect me to be this person, why not present evidence to GENERAL members as to how you have come to that conclusion accusing an equally 'general member' as being deserving of your obvious disdain? On your own? or via more covert and collective means? Do you know something everyday members on this forum don't? Please, tell us all. Oh and equally, tell everyone why this 'cupie' person is deserved of your prejudice. I'm sure we're all dying to know.

If you have any respect or decorum whatsoever in your purely subjective attack, then I suggest you contact me via email to state your allegations, assumptions or whatever else and why that has any relevance to my involvement here as an 'everyday' otherwise, unprivileged member, such as yourself. For that matter, why it has relevance to my opinion generally as an 'everyday' member. Boy are you a powerful duck eh? I feel sorry for this 'cupie' person if you are so hell bent on being so personally vindictive. Glad I'm not that person. Or can you demonstrate otherwise?

Garn, respond on your own merit, and tell me and everyone else, how a general member is being otherwise targeted????. and how and why you seem happy to assert (without evidence) that I'm someone else?????? Any fact behind that assertion? if so, then tell us 'general members' how you come by such 'intimate details' of any members identity? If at all?

Roo · « **Reply #73 on:** August 03, 2010, 08:54:07 PM »

For cryin' out loud!

Your writing style sticks out like doggy bits!

Rebel1 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 03, 2010, 09:08:53 PM »

Hey all you general members? meet the ozrt clique club. Roo. Prove it, can you do that? Do you have that much influence yet? who are you speaking of and what is the basis of your obvious personal vendetta towards this person? Tell everyone how you apparently have privy to personal membership details that might prove your allegation? do you? That's what it would surely take to make such otherwise unfounded allegations.??? and btw, why is it any of your business? Isn't this a public forum? I'd say Prove it. Tell everyone how it is that you are so sure I'm someone else and why you so despise that person and feel so justified in your obvious disdain?. Then tell us how it is that two seemingly long standing members are making these unfounded allegations???? Prove it roo. HOW do you know what it is you think you know. Tell everyone.

I'm sure if Cupie could speak for his/her self, he/she would do so based on their experience of this forum. I'm dying to know how you justify your comments otherwise though. Go ahead, tell us all. Why do you so despise this poor Cupie person. What was that persons history on this site to deserve such disdain? I'm dying to know. Please explain?

Roo · « **Reply #75 on:** August 03, 2010, 10:05:00 PM »

We all know it's you....because you have used the exact same terms and words with just as much finesse as you did before..lol

I don't hate you, ya silly nong!.....I have no vendetta....I do not have any secret knowledge...nor do I talk behind your back and plan evil things to do to you.

If you actually think I do....then sorry,,,you're the one with problems.

HellWest'nCrooked · « **Reply #76 on:** August 03, 2010, 10:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 03, 2010, 08:49:38 PM

Really? why so? care to elaborate on this so called presumption and where it is being discussed that it requires a collective response that seems contrived and pre-convened ? do you represent a consensus? or is that just coincidental?. Who's next I wonder? How cosy eh? Want to play a game called 'cards on the table' fluffy? I suggest you keep your otherwise unsubstantiated (and seemingly collectively 'subjective' assumptions perhaps in places I can't respond to) Isn't that the way it's done here? (or so I've heard) Hearsay is a bugga isn''t it? Problem is 'word gets around' Just ask Julia and Kevin.

Unless you want to debate whatever it is that appears to be so hilariously obvious (to an apparent few) and deserving of this kind of subjective prejudice.

Feel so inclined to debate me or 'cupie' whoever that person be, openly here and now? And if you suspect me to be this person, why not present evidence to GENERAL members as to how you have come to that conclusion accusing an equally 'general member' as being deserving of your obvious disdain? On your own? or via more covert and collective means? Do you know something everyday members on this forum don't? Please, tell us all. Oh and equally, tell everyone why this 'cupie' person is deserved of your prejudice. I'm sure we're all dying to know.

If you have any respect or decorum whatsoever in your purely subjective attack, then I suggest you contact me via email to state your allegations, assumptions or whatever else and why that has any relevance to my involvement here as an 'everyday' otherwise, unprivileged member, such as yourself. For that matter, why it has relevance to my opinion generally as an 'everyday' member. Boy are you a powerful duck eh? I feel sorry for this 'cupie' person if you are so hell bent on being so personally vindictive. Glad I'm not that person. Or can you demonstrate otherwise?

Garn, respond on your own merit, and tell me and everyone else, how a general member is being otherwise targeted????. and how and why you seem happy to assert (without evidence) that I'm someone else?????? Any fact behind that assertion? if so, then tell us 'general members' how you come by such 'intimate details' of any members identity? If at all?

Well......thats just got me fooked! You asked a question Rebel and unless I am blind as Freddie you got one answer.......and you go on about a "collective response".

Then Roo has posted and now me..........think I will go to bed and sleep this one off and see if it makes sense in the morning.

Westie

Rebel1 · « **Reply #77 on:** August 03, 2010, 11:22:59 PM »

Then I suggest you ask more questions westie, some know, and those who do know ain't tellin. Ask the mates you're defending, what I might be referring to before defending them devoid of actual fact. They know. Ask em. They know it all apparently. ? Boy would you be surprised to know the truth but I wont be the one to disclose it (according to what I've been told) lol. Roo and Wheels raised it, best they explain how they reached that conclusion. I've said nothing incriminating or otherwise, indiscreet. Aim straight for a start. And if their influence has me banned for defending my independent position, then indeed it's self evident how 'objective' this forum is yes?

Rebel1 · « **Reply #78 on:** August 04, 2010, 12:02:44 AM »

LOL roo, you're so predictable. Prove it sweetheart . Does admin have enough trust in you to breach my privacy? Admin where are you in this blatant discrimination against a general member who has no privileges to 'otherwise private discussion' about others.?? Is admin on this site present currently?

Roo · « **Reply #79 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:04:32 AM »

Rebel....I had no idea what you were on about last time you started on me...and I still have no idea!

What do you want me to prove? That you are Cupie?

Well...I have no need to because you gave yourself away the minute you started posting.

In fact, if you insist on spreading rumours and making stuff up to discredit any member here, I doubt that you will be welcome by any members here.

I don't have any special powers here....in fact, I have very little time to post here most days anyway.

So stop with the crazy talk and realise that nobody here talks about you!! You ain't that interesting.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #80 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:08:19 AM »

LOL nice attempt Roo, but it was you and wheels who brought up this person 'cupie', which you both seem determined to defame to the extent of accusing me of being this person. Prove it honey !!!!!!!! and then tell everyone how you did. do you have access to ISP info Roo? If so, how is that? If I'm this person you allege, then only Admin could confirm it. Are you that influential roo? Where's the admin of this site.? Or are you it? Or does your hearsay alone constitute fact? do you really want to take this into nitty gritties Roo? LOL, I suspect you need to consult with Admin before you go there on your own ego alone. try doing that first OK? Email the admin and ask whether this unfounded attack is supported. I've done so, Just waiting for a response.

Roo · « **Reply #81 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:23:20 AM »

If you really believe even half of what you are rambling about...then how about you show us all where anyone has defamed you!

It's plain to see that you have been pushing the boundaries as hard as you could just hoping for a chance to spew venom at everyone here.

Pfft! You're bonkers! I can't reason with a crazy lady.

Roo · « **Reply #82 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:29:13 AM »

The way I see it...if it swims like a fish...and smells like a fish...then it is a ruddy fish!

Keep raving about how I'm some sort of computer whiz...everyone knows that my computer skills aren't exactly worth writing home about....and I will repeat!....I do not in any way have anything to do with running this forum!

Rebel1 · « **Reply #83 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:33:03 AM »

Roo , run back to your private forum where other members have no access (as I've been informed) and biatch about me behind my back. Far easier than putting the cards on the table in a public forum right? I haven't said anything but when I do, it will be because of your obvious bitchiness. Keep pushing sunshine. Isn't that the standard here mate? do you really want to get 'REAL'. just like Julia? I'm sure general unprivileged members are now dying to know what the difference may be in light of your unwarranted attack on an otherwise 'GENERAL MEMBER' LOL. What a shame you and Wheels brought it up. Want to get REAL Roo? Tell the general members what you base this unwarranted attack upon? I'm sure they don't want to experience what your clique crew are handing me. As I said, I've emailed admin, perhaps you should do the same before acting as Admin, or so it seems.

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #84 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:48:26 AM »

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 04, 2010, 01:33:03 AM

Roo , run back to your private forum where other members have no access (as I've been informed) and biatch about me behind my back. Far easier than putting the cards on the table in a public forum right?

FACT: There has been several times MORE discussion on this subject in this thread and 'The Election Thread' than has been posted on the whole of the rest of the site.

Your perceptions are completely erroneous and your accusation comes across as paranoia.

Roo · « **Reply #85 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:54:41 AM »

Please Cupie.....show everyone here where we are supposed to have defamed you.

You seem to be the one making up stories...so how about you put up or shut up...?

Why do you hate me? I never did anything to you except tell you to lighten up and stop pounding on everyone.

What are you actually wanting to achieve here? Why are you here when you hate us all so much?

I'm off to bed now...and hopefully after a good nights sleep this Rebel may even realise how silly she looks.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:56:15 AM »

Lol? violins playing now the aggressor is the victim? Can you really achieve integrity? From what I've heard not. I've heard of an Elephant and Castle private forum on this site. Is that erroneous? Can you deny its existence? Quick report this comment to admin/mods and I'm sure they'll be happy to cover it up on your say so alone. Only some have access to this elite forum apparently (or so I've heard) Is this private forum called E & C where privileged members of this site post about other members,without the benefit of reply? Enlighten us general members, since your private forum have elected to make it public. Deny it roo.. anytime mate. !!! I only know what I've heard and your response tends to prove it every inch of the way.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #87 on:** August 04, 2010, 01:57:52 AM »

Quote from: Roo on August 04, 2010, 01:54:41 AM

Please Cupie.....show everyone here where we are supposed to have defamed you.

You seem to be the one making up stories...so how about you put up or shut up...?

Why do you hate me? I never did anything to you except tell you to lighten up and stop pounding on everyone.

What are you actually wanting to achieve here? Why are you here when you hate us all so much?

I'm off to bed now...and hopefully after a good nights sleep this Rebel may even realise how silly she looks.

Who's cupie Roo? prove I am who you allege I am first mate. give me a break.....you also have a reputation, want to know what that is?

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #88 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:00:16 AM »

Quote from: *Brum6y* on August 04, 2010, 01:48:26 AM

FACT: There has been several times MORE discussion on this subject in this thread and 'The Election Thread' than has been posted on the whole of the rest of the site.

I made a statement of fact. It is provable - if it were to be taken to the necessary extents.

I have also given this personal opinion:

Quote

Your perceptions are completely erroneous and your accusation comes across as paranoia.

Roo · « **Reply #89 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:07:10 AM »

As others have said tonight....you don't have to be Einstein or have any computer knowledge to know who you are..lol...you keep proving it with everything you say....because you are repeating word for word what Cupie used to always say...lol

All you have done since you came here with a new ID is bait and push and try to get someone to bite.

And tonight you went right over the top over some funny comment.

And as I said....nobody here has even mentioned you since you spat the dummy last time...lol

Rebel1 · « **Reply #90 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:10:19 AM »

Lol, duck weave. Is there a private forum where people like you brumby, Roo, and wheels meet to discuss these issues? lol. Come on, Roo and Wheels raised it in their attempt to undermine me as an otherwise' anonymous member' . Does this site have a private forum called E & C where your mob convene to discuss general members Roo in spite of their privacy rights?? Now deny, in all honesty that you haven't been all discussing this attack upon me in that place. (I've heard that's how things are done around here, and it seems Admin is missing in action?) When all I'm doing is posting my independent opinion devoid your obvious 'clique club' mentality and cant' even do that much without subjective parochial attack? Grow up finally. . Is there a forum on this site called E & C? or not. Ive' been told there is. Your move brumby. Tell us all a lie I dare ya !!!

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #91 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:17:51 AM »

Same challenge, then, on this question: Are you the member formally known as '*Cupie*' ?

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 04, 2010, 02:10:19 AM

Tell us all a lie I dare ya !!!

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #92 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:25:56 AM »

On your original objection, you made an accusation about idle chatter behind your back - and I have made it abundantly clear that there has been FAR, FAR more discussion on the issue of who you are (or aren't) in these two threads, than has been expressed on the whole of the rest of the site put together.

Your whole argument on 'behind your back' is simply an overactive imagination.

This next comment comes from my observations of what has been said by one and all...

Sorry to disappoint you Rebel*1, but you AREN'T as big in the minds of people as you think you are.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:26:16 AM »

I think you should be posing that question to the countessa. After all, only she and Poddy apparently can confirm it for you whilst breaching mine, and this person Cupies PRIVACY. serious stuff. want to go there? ASK the Countessa in your private forum as to what you should do. there's a lad. If my account disappears then it will be self evident to everyone else, that my privileged detractors actually run this place. Your move. Jesus, who the hell am I right? Do you know enough to actually breach my privacy as a member of this site?

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #94 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:27:28 AM »

Why ask the Countess?

I asked you.

Rebel1 · « **Reply #95 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:29:35 AM »

She's the adminstator, or have you superseded her also?

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #96 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:32:42 AM »

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 04, 2010, 02:26:16 AM

If my account disappears then it will be self evident that my privileged detractors actually run this place.

That case is a possibility, presuming your accusations have some merit - which is still a mystery to me ... but it could also be the case that you simply cancel your membership on your own volition ... and, having planted the 'self evident' seed as to why your membership has terminated, walk away having defamed the site.

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #97 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:35:09 AM »

Quote from: Rebel*1* on August 04, 2010, 02:29:35 AM

She's the adminstator, or have you superseded her also?

What are you on about...? What has that got to do with it? Are you trying to bait a breach of privacy? I wouldn't even discuss such a matter out of respect for the responsibility.

I asked you a question. The question was appropriate to you. Can you not answer it?

Rebel1 · « **Reply #98 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:37:03 AM »

lmao presuming that Wheels and Roos' assertions were any way factually based ???? prove it. Who is the Raal administrator of this site? Countessa? not you? then I've already emailed my thoughts to her about her dominant 'clique club' which is how it was described to me before I joined this obviously biased site.

*Brum6y* · « **Reply #99 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:39:04 AM »

Again ... why are you bringing Admin into this?

I have asked you a question ... and you are ducking and weaving around it like a helium balloon up against Jeff Fenech.

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