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Few questions.
« on: February 09, 2010, 05:27:17 PM »
I accept that less buyers/sellers are on ebay now.

Question 1: any idea where do these people go?

Question 2: does this translates to overall lower level of buyer's willingness to bid or seller's willingness to list quality items?

I accept that shill bidding is bad. Let's put this aside.

Question 3: from a seller's perspective, what is your opinion on sniper?

I recently missed a very rare coin but that is because I am bidding against a very keen collector.

Question 4: if you list a rare and probably valuable item, how do you ensure the keen buyers know about your item? Do you do anything?

Question 5: Quite often seller start auction at $0.99 and let the market to decide the fair price. Fact is, many times the final winner didn't have to pay the max amount he/she is willing to pay. As a seller, what did you do to legitimately maximize the closing price?

I accept the fact that Paypal is bad.

Question 6: why do you think it is OK to accept paypal payment from overseas buyer?

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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 05:37:18 PM »
Question 1: any idea where do these people go?

They're in my Basement...*snipe*.
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 05:39:53 PM »
Howdi Low....i'll answer Question 6 in reverse....if I were wanting to buy from OS, (and could get past Paypal's no liability UA), I'd probably use paypal simply because there is recourse if the item or seller is dodgy....otherwise, there is no recourse outside of Australia...but I can't get past Paypal's no care no responsibility UA so I'll never know....lol...

In terms of accepting Paypal from OS buyers, it's because transfer charges are a nightmare any other way...also exchange rate has an effect I'm sure, but I don't do any OS buying or selling, so I'm not qualified to do anything other than comment superficially....others will know...Countess buys OS quite a bit...

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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 05:51:46 PM »
OK i admit that the basement thing dint fly..

I still got the *snipe*.

Sorry.
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 05:53:02 PM »
Question 1: any idea where do these people go? 
No idea.  But there are always buyers for something that is worth something and can be gotten cheap.  Many buyers are professional resellers and as I said if the item is worth something and is cheap enough, it will always sell.

Question 2: does this translates to overall lower level of buyer's willingness to bid or seller's willingness to list quality items?
Both.  It's cause and effect.  Less competition means less bids which means sellers cannot sell for anywhere close to what the item is worth.  If sellers want to make money, unless they have a high demand item, they can't so less sellers, less listings, less buyers etc etc etc.


Question 3: from a seller's perspective, what is your opinion on sniper?

Sniping allows buyers to put in a final bid seconds before the end of an auction.  I think it does minimise the end cost to the winning bidder as they can come in with a high bid and noone else can counter act the bid with one of their own because there isn't time.  I can see why buyers use it and I have use it once myself.  However it is (not as bad of course) but to some degree the opposite of schill bidding.  The buyer is manipulating the bidding to gain the item for the minimum they can because time has run out.

Some buyers may have been put off by stories of rampid schilling and use a sniping tool to fight this. 

Question 4: if you list a rare and probably valuable item, how do you ensure the keen buyers know about your item? Do you do anything?
Put links in my other listings to my other items.

Question 5: Quite often seller start auction at $0.99 and let the market to decide the fair price. Fact is, many times the final winner didn't have to pay the max amount he/she is willing to pay. As a seller, what did you do to legitimately maximize the closing price?
Yes the seller can only put the starting price at the lowest he/she is willing to let the item go for or else they miss out.  Anything above this is a bonus.

Question 6: why do you think it is OK to accept paypal payment from overseas buyer?

Apart from Paymate there are not much other choices.  When Paypal works and if there are no problems all is OK.  It's just when there is problems.
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 06:02:16 PM »
Look at The Duckie go..............!!!
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 06:33:19 PM »
Question 1: any idea where do these people go? - I think people are going to a variety of places. Some will sell on Amazon. Some will have moved to their own websites. Some will sell on iBid or iOffer or Trading Post or Bonanzle or Oztion. Some may have decided not to sell any more.

Question 2: does this translates to overall lower level of buyer's willingness to bid or seller's willingness to list quality items? - Yes. I think this is actually one of the most obvious results of people leaving eBay - the lack of quality of items which sellers are willing to list, and the lack of quality items on which buyers can bid. I also think that a "grab a 99 cent bargain" mentality has destroyed a lot of sellers, and it's affected a lot of buyers; the buyers keep looking for incredible bargains that don't represent the real world, real value, etc. It's not true of all types of items, of course, but I can see a definite effect with items on offer online.

Question 3: from a seller's perspective, what is your opinion on sniper? - Well, I'm a buyer... so I can only say that from a buyer's perspective, I love it. If I were a seller, I think I'd also appreciate it, as it lets people decide in advance the MAXIMUM they would be willing to spend on an item, and place their bid well in advance. If two people have a realistic view of the item's value, the snipe ensures a last-minute good price. However, it has meant that bidding wars are much less usual now... which I suppose is sad.

Question 4: if you list a rare and probably valuable item, how do you ensure the keen buyers know about your item? Do you do anything? - I haven't listed things on eBay myself, but I suppose I'd want to create a "presence" online, by writing articles on specialist websites and including the link to my listing, advertising my items everywhere I can, including detailed information and fantastic photographs. It might be good to advertise items in a specialist collector's magazine, if that's possible.

Question 5: Quite often seller start auction at $0.99 and let the market to decide the fair price. Fact is, many times the final winner didn't have to pay the max amount he/she is willing to pay. As a seller, what did you do to legitimately maximize the closing price? - There isn't much you can do legitimately. If a seller starts an auction at 99 cents, he/she has to take the risk that the item won't go any higher than that. I'd be in favour of a more realistic starting price.

Question 6: why do you think it is OK to accept paypal payment from overseas buyer? - If a seller doesn't have a merchant account, the options for receiving payment are limited to third-party payment methods such as PayPal, Paymate, Google Checkout (if you're in the US), Worldpay, etc. You can ask overseas buyers to transfer money to your bank account, but they will certainly have to pay a fee to do so, and they may be deeply reluctant to transfer money bearing in mind both the fee and the relentlessly negative marketing push that has seen bank transfers called " unsafe" by PayPal and eBay. You can also state you'll accept cheques, but there is a lot of hassle in having overseas cheques converted. International money orders also cost money. Cash in the mail is terribly risky.

By far the best option in my opinion is if a seller can accept a credit card payment - but if he can't, then PayPal is one of the few ways in which to pay conveniently.

I still consider PayPal a risky payment method, but I do use it when purchasing from overseas sellers. I'm more reluctant to use it for purchases within Australia. I WILL NOT accept payment for my CD or for sheet music or for performing or for web hosting/design by PayPal. I have a merchant account with my bank which means I can process credit card payments, so I know how easy it is to do this and how very reasonable the costs are.
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 06:45:12 PM »
Old topic. New responses.

Very cool.
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 09:30:11 PM »
its like anything new ... the novelty value wears off ....

when Boost Juice shops opened people were queuing for hundreds of metres to buy a celery and carrot juice for $5 ... now you can fire a cannon in the joints without fear of hitting anyone .....and you couldnt give away a celery and carrot juice

so look at it from the perspective that its not dead now on ebay ... it was just too alive in the beginning .....

somewhere in between the 2 extents would be nice


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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 10:34:52 PM »
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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 11:01:51 PM »
Boost Juice! Shocking stuff, How anyone would or could drink celery and carrot juice has got me beat, I won't eat the stuff so I certainly won't drink it.

Back on topic! I'm a buyer only & have found, over the last 18 months or so that the quality of the items listed on the Ebay Au site has deteriorated considerably. I use to bid/buy Archery & fishing gear but most of the stuff is now "Buy now" and of poor Chinese manufacture quality. The old days have gone, it is not common to see decent gear listed for auction & there are very few private members listing their good quality second hand goods for auction.

Many of the sellers, both here in Australia & overseas, now have their own web sites & I buy direct from them both for myself & for my fishing & archery mates. Their prices are a bit cheaper than they would be if they listed on Ebay as they don't have to pay Ebay & Paypal fees. I pay via credit/debit card which is protected by chargeback should any problem arise. No problem has arisen as yet.

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Re: Few questions.
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 11:46:14 PM »
Ok, as a seller i can answer no.3
I have no problems with buyers using a sniping program to bid on my auctions- I list at the minimum price I am prepared to sell, so if they go for that I am not disconcerted at all - and sometimes the snipers puch the price up very nicely in the last 2 minutes, thank you!
I think I have already answered qu 5. - only a new seller, someone clearing second hand goods, someone trying to create interest (perhaps in other items they have listed) or someone mislead by ebay's pushing the lowest price auction, would normally list an auction starting at .99c - experienced sellers start at their minimum sell price.
And as has already been stated- Paypal or one of its competitors is really the only option ebay sellers have for easy overseas payments- either to, or from. ( I use paypal to pay for all the stock I import- at the moment this is my cheapest option)